Terrific Bill.
P-18 might well be the first step toward putting Indoor back on a path of relative popularity. Time for each of us to weigh in with our AMA Indoor Contest Board representatives prior to the first vote.
DD
> On Mar 20, 2016, at 6:33 PM, William Carney wcarneyjx_at_gmail.com [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Five or six of showed up at Wings Over the Rockies museum today and did a significant amount of hanger flying - the Real kind. I don't think there was a stopwatch I the building.
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> I took a few pics and here's a video of my P-18. I'm planning to post the plan and maybe a build thread on Hippocket.
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> Bill C
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> https://youtu.be/vDiFGnyUWcw
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>> On Mar 20, 2016 12:35 PM, "Steve Corbin dayhead58_at_gmail.com [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> I believe that indoor could attract more participants if more "beginner" type classes are created. Planes that can be built in an hour, that in basic form are capable of only one or two minutes of flight. I get bored watching a plane fly in circles for more than a couple minutes.
>> Let's say I go to a flying site and pay my $5. I'm led to an area where tables are set up, and I'm given a Guillows Strato Streak kit.
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>> The rule is that I can use only the materials in the kit, but I can slice the parts up as I see fit. Oh, and I also get some tissue paper and a foam cup, and I can use my own tools and adhesives, or those provided.
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>> So everybody starts out with the same resources, and can have as much time to build as I want, although the doors don't open 'til 4 and the flying starts at 7.
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>> No size or weight rules. Good rubber should be offered for sale. Airplane must ROG. A panel of judges can name the entries, such as "most innovative use of a Strato Streak kit", "most whimsical", 'most graceful flight", etc.
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>> Look, the anal retentive serious indoor flyers have what they want already.
>> But there are many others like me that simply aren't ready to jump off the deep end. We'd like to just go have fun, without even using a stopwatch sometimes. The good ol' KISS principle applied to a social gathering, where you would see all types of aeronautical design being hatched from the crude Guillows plane.
>> But if the F1D guys show up, that's even better, giving many an intro to the good stuff.
>> Had I taken enough time I could have done a better job of getting my point across, but so be it.
>> As far as I know, there is no indoor FF happening in my neck of the woods. But there are a lot of big buildings, gyms, churches,etc.
>> I think that indoor FF has a lot to offer, but for some reason I never hear of any around here.
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>> A "raw amateurs" beginners class would be a great way, I feel, to get the next generation of serious FFer's started.
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>> How to get something started? Need to get it publicized so everyon can know that on Tuesday nights there's a place to go and mingle with other like minded folks.
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>> Ok, rant over. Return to your regular reading. Steve
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>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, William Carney wcarneyjx_at_gmail.com [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>> J.bartek,
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>>> I have a pretty good flying original design P-18 which is designed to meet the provional rules.
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>>> Give me a few days to scrub the plan and get it ready for public consumption and I'll be happy to share.
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>>> Bill C
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>>>> On Mar 17, 2016 8:53 AM, "j.bartek_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>> I've been a perpetual beginner at indoor FF, but I've had fun with it, and I'd like to have more. I've seen discussion of P-18 but don't know what could be a viable version lately.
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>>>> I've built a 2015 S.O. Wright stuff plane and have flown it in the school gym that the Chicago area Woodland Aeromodelers use as well as the hangar at Rantoul which will be the site for this years Nats. I started out with a couple tries at Chuck Markos' Double Whammy (flat plate version) and have flown it to the ceiling at Racine's Memorial Hall a few times.
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>>>> I've seen the discussion on growing the hobby/sport, and I'd like to speak for those for whom winning isn't the only thing. Flying is! Some of my friends in the hobby never compete, because they build to their own taste. I don't mind rules as long as I can get the plane built to them and it will fly. No V/P props for my older fingers. Deli bucket ones or molded balsa are fine. Ikara ones are good too.
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>>>> As far as indoor guys concentrating on their own thing and not making much outreach effort, I've been fortunate to be within 100 miles of the Bong Eagles club, who are good at outreach. They understand the need for a web presence, and have a website that's on its second webmaster. Forums are a good place for outreach. I've used the Free Flight Forum stuck in a corner of RC Groups for some. I write up my flying sessions on my DuPageJoe Blog. I've also used a thread on there to document my S.O. 2015 Wright Stuff plane. I was glad to have Don S. contribute his plans and comments to that thread.
>>>> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2271995
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>>>> Our area is fortunate to have Chuck Markos participation in S.O. Wright Stuff. I'll be out of town in April, but I hope other indoor flyers from the Chicago are can help Chuck with the competition.
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