Re: Are P-18 plans or Specs available?

From: William Carney <wcarneyjx_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:33:51 -0400

Five or six of showed up at Wings Over the Rockies museum today and did a
significant amount of hanger flying - the Real kind. I don't think there
was a stopwatch I the building.

I took a few pics and here's a video of my P-18. I'm planning to post the
plan and maybe a build thread on Hippocket.

Bill C

https://youtu.be/vDiFGnyUWcw
On Mar 20, 2016 12:35 PM, "Steve Corbin dayhead58_at_gmail.com
[Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> I believe that indoor could attract more participants if more "beginner"
> type classes are created. Planes that can be built in an hour, that in
> basic form are capable of only one or two minutes of flight. I get bored
> watching a plane fly in circles for more than a couple minutes.
> Let's say I go to a flying site and pay my $5. I'm led to an area where
> tables are set up, and I'm given a Guillows Strato Streak kit.
>
> The rule is that I can use only the materials in the kit, but I can
> slice the parts up as I see fit. Oh, and I also get some tissue paper and a
> foam cup, and I can use my own tools and adhesives, or those provided.
>
> So everybody starts out with the same resources, and can have as much
> time to build as I want, although the doors don't open 'til 4 and the
> flying starts at 7.
>
> No size or weight rules. Good rubber should be offered for sale.
> Airplane must ROG. A panel of judges can name the entries, such as "most
> innovative use of a Strato Streak kit", "most whimsical", 'most graceful
> flight", etc.
>
> Look, the anal retentive serious indoor flyers have what they want
> already.
> But there are many others like me that simply aren't ready to jump off
> the deep end. We'd like to just go have fun, without even using a stopwatch
> sometimes. The good ol' KISS principle applied to a social gathering, where
> you would see all types of aeronautical design being hatched from the crude
> Guillows plane.
> But if the F1D guys show up, that's even better, giving many an intro to
> the good stuff.
> Had I taken enough time I could have done a better job of getting my
> point across, but so be it.
> As far as I know, there is no indoor FF happening in my neck of the
> woods. But there are a lot of big buildings, gyms, churches,etc.
> I think that indoor FF has a lot to offer, but for some reason I never
> hear of any around here.
>
> A "raw amateurs" beginners class would be a great way, I feel, to get
> the next generation of serious FFer's started.
>
> How to get something started? Need to get it publicized so everyon can
> know that on Tuesday nights there's a place to go and mingle with other
> like minded folks.
>
> Ok, rant over. Return to your regular reading. Steve
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, William Carney wcarneyjx_at_gmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> J.bartek,
>>
>> I have a pretty good flying original design P-18 which is designed to
>> meet the provional rules.
>>
>> Give me a few days to scrub the plan and get it ready for public
>> consumption and I'll be happy to share.
>>
>> Bill C
>> On Mar 17, 2016 8:53 AM, "j.bartek_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction]" <
>> Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> I've been a perpetual beginner at indoor FF, but I've had fun with it,
>>> and I'd like to have more. I've seen discussion of P-18 but don't know
>>> what could be a viable version lately.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've built a 2015 S.O. Wright stuff plane and have flown it in the
>>> school gym that the Chicago area Woodland Aeromodelers use as well as the
>>> hangar at Rantoul which will be the site for this years Nats. I started
>>> out with a couple tries at Chuck Markos' Double Whammy (flat plate version)
>>> and have flown it to the ceiling at Racine's Memorial Hall a few times.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've seen the discussion on growing the hobby/sport, and I'd like to
>>> speak for those for whom winning isn't the only thing. Flying is! Some of
>>> my friends in the hobby never compete, because they build to their own
>>> taste. I don't mind rules as long as I can get the plane built to them and
>>> it will fly. No V/P props for my older fingers. Deli bucket ones or
>>> molded balsa are fine. Ikara ones are good too.
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as indoor guys concentrating on their own thing and not making
>>> much outreach effort, I've been fortunate to be within 100 miles of the
>>> Bong Eagles club, who are good at outreach. They understand the need for a
>>> web presence, and have a website that's on its second webmaster. Forums are
>>> a good place for outreach. I've used the Free Flight Forum stuck in a
>>> corner of RC Groups for some. I write up my flying sessions on my
>>> DuPageJoe Blog. I've also used a thread on there to document my S.O. 2015
>>> Wright Stuff plane. I was glad to have Don S. contribute his plans and
>>> comments to that thread.
>>>
>>> *http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2271995*
>>> <http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2271995>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our area is fortunate to have Chuck Markos participation in S.O. Wright
>>> Stuff. I'll be out of town in April, but I hope other indoor flyers from
>>> the Chicago are can help Chuck with the competition.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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