Ok Bill, fair enough.
I hope you guys all have a super time.
I'll be watching for the daily updates.
Best regards
S
On 6 March 2018 at 16:06, William Gowen wdgowen_at_gmail.com
[Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>
> The WC is starting in about 2 weeks. It needs to be discussed whether it
> was your intention or not.
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:47 AM, simon bargery bargerysimon_at_gmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Bill
>> I really wanted to pull the discussion away from the WC situation.
>> We have no jurisdiction as a Yahoo group on the regs as written or their
>> interpretation.
>>
>> If we can discuss the implications, thoughts, feelings and future on the
>> group as a pure discussion where views can be aired, I think we all stand
>> to gain some insight.
>>
>> Mike's suggestion to constrain the discussion to F1D is a good one.
>> Although I see F1N is now FIA recognised.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> On 6 March 2018 at 15:36, William Gowen wdgowen_at_gmail.com
>> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>> The World Champs is not the place for this issue to be decided. If
>>> people wanted to ban bought hubs the rules should have been clarified long
>>> before now. How many people coming to West Baden are going to be at risk of
>>> disqualification? My guess is a lot.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Mike and Marelet Kirda
>>> mkirda_at_sbcglobal..net <mkirda_at_sbcglobal.net> [Indoor_Construction] <
>>> Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Simon..
>>>>
>>>> Rather than focus on F1N, let's keep it at F1D as that is what sparked
>>>> this conversation.
>>>>
>>>> F1D kit - Yes, of course they would be allowed, assuming that the kit
>>>> supplied balsa and covering and such and the parts had to be built. A fully
>>>> put together and covered model that the modeler had to plug in the wings,
>>>> stab and prop would not be considered 'building'.
>>>>
>>>> Harlan bearing, yes, of course.
>>>> Use of carbon rod, yes, of course. (We don't need to grow our own balsa
>>>> trees.)
>>>>
>>>> Where does one draw the line?
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere between a Harlan bearing and a fully assembled VP mechanism
>>>> is where I would draw it.
>>>>
>>>> I can see a VP kit being allowable as the modeler would still need to
>>>> build it, glue parts together and such.
>>>> I can see unfinished carbon prop blades being allowable.
>>>> I can even see unfinished carbon tubes meant for fuselages being
>>>> allowable.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Mike Kirda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 3:17 AM, "simon bargery
>>>> bargerysimon_at_gmail.com [Indoor_Construction]" <
>>>> Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good day group.
>>>> The comments on this purchased VP aspect make interesting reading.
>>>> They seem centred around the general 'Builder of Model' rule.
>>>>
>>>> Would you consider someone buying and building a kit is the builder of
>>>> the model??
>>>> I doubt if F1D kits will ever become available, but if they did, would
>>>> they be against the BOM rule?
>>>>
>>>> There are F1N kits about - can they be purchased, built and flown and
>>>> still comply with the BOM rule?
>>>>
>>>> A lot can depend on the definition of 'building' a plane, and whether
>>>> all components must be 'built' too...
>>>>
>>>> If I use a carbon tube for a wing post will I need to have made it
>>>> myself from carbon cloth?
>>>> Do I need to weave the cloth from tow?
>>>>
>>>> Are Harlan type bearings allowed?
>>>>
>>>> I think there are various interpretations of this rule around,
>>>> supported by various opinions.
>>>> It's not particularly clear what the intent is.
>>>>
>>>> Quite possibly the intent is a simple as preventing a team using one
>>>> model for all members.
>>>> The addition of a number on the model does indicate that the organisers
>>>> want to be able to tell who it 'belongs to'.
>>>> One flier could have several models with the same number on them.
>>>>
>>>> This is a discussion group, can we discuss the various opinions?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Simon Bargery
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> --
>> Best regards
>>
>> Simon Bargery
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Best regards
Simon Bargery
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