Re: What Goes Around Comes Around

From: William Gowen <wdgowen_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 18:43:31 -0500

Also we don't really know what the intention of the original proposal was.

On Jan 8, 2018 6:41 PM, "William Gowen" <wdgowen_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Jake
> It hasn't happened yet. I hope it's true that the proposals will go away
> but vigilance is a good idea until that happens.
>
> On Jan 8, 2018 6:36 PM, "Jake Palmer 82.jake_at_gmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps this hasn't been advertised well enough and loud enough.
>>
>> *THESE PROPOSALS ARE GOING TO BE WITHDRAWN*
>>
>> They were made in error as general rules proposals. They were intended
>> to be proposals for outdoor free flight. I continue to see conversations
>> here, on Facebook, on Hippocket, and private messages directly to me from
>> people in the district I represent. While I appreciate all the enthusiasm,
>> this doesn't need to be discussed further.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Chris pseshooter3d_at_yahoo.com
>> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom, thank you for the historical perspective. I haven’t been playing
>>> this game nearly long enough to have been part of those days, so take my
>>> comments for what they are worth.
>>>
>>> At the contests I have attended, it seems like most people usually end
>>> up flying against a record, whether it be national, a site record, or even
>>> a personal best. F1D might be the exception to that, as I have witnessed
>>> some pretty great competitive F1D flying.
>>>
>>> I can’t speak for everyone else here, but I don’t think anyone is saying
>>> we have to fly all of the established events at every contest. Rather the
>>> idea is that if this rule proposal is adopted into the books, the records
>>> for the vast majority of events will no longer be kept. The way I
>>> interpret the situation is then there would be no more records for those
>>> events, and thus flyers would have nothing to fly against, and those events
>>> would be effectively dead.
>>>
>>> If we want to keep flying for records in events such as AROG, EZB, A6,
>>> Autogiro, IHLS, Manhattan Cabin, Ornithopter, etc, we should not accept any
>>> rule that discards them from the record books.
>>>
>>> That said, I definitely don’t support this rule change, and doubt many
>>> other AMA flyers would either, as it affects ALL aspects of aero modeling
>>> that are sanctioned by AMA.
>>>
>>> CG
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Thomas Finch tomfinch2_at_hotmail.com
>>> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harking back to the early 60's, There were six main indoor classes:
>>> AROG, B, C and D stick and B and C cabin. Helicopter and Autogyro plus ROW
>>> were also there but very seldom flown. FAI stick was really a subset of D
>>> and Wally Miller had just come up with easy B which was being flown locally
>>> in SoCal. The Nats just flew Stick and Cabin but those of us who were
>>> active really competed against the records. A group spearheaded by Bud
>>> Tenney decided that there were too many classes and lobbied AMA to cut down
>>> the number. The only reason they really came up with was that it took too
>>> much effort by HQ to keep up with all the records. At that time, Frank
>>> Ehling was Technical Director and he assured me that it really wasn't any
>>> trouble at all. Anyway they won and a bunch of classes were eliminated.
>>> Here we are again almost 50 years later and the situation sounds awfully
>>> similar. Leave the less popular classes in for those who want to compete
>>> against the record.
>>>
>>> Tom Finch
>>>
>>>
>>>
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