Great! We don't want experts flying this event. We want newbies flying it.
Bill C
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Jake Palmer 82.jake_at_gmail.com
[Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Anyone that chooses to fly an event specifically because they have no
> competition isn't likely to fly indoor for very long. Either you enjoy the
> hobby and the challenges that come with it, or you don't. That's why I
> fail to see how this event helps indoor long term, and that's why I voted
> against it.
>
> That said, all of the "experts" I've spoken with have zero interest in
> this event.
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Chris pseshooter3d_at_yahoo.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> So I have no dog in this fight as my personal goals in indoor are
>> breaking LPP and F1L records and getting decent at F1D, thus leaving little
>> time or energy for less competitive events.
>>
>> But what I do want to know is with all of the time and energy being put
>> into P18, what is the desired outcome of adopting this event? Is it to
>> attract new indoor fliers? Is it to create/produce life long indoor
>> enthusiasts? Is it to create an event that discourages certain fliers from
>> participating so some new names can be on the podium? Just what exactly
>> is trying to be done with P18?
>>
>> I can see how the event would allow some people other than the usual
>> suspects to win, as they have already stated they won't fly it. But how
>> does it create interest and lifelong participation more so than any other
>> event? Is the idea that someone new to indoor can be competitive in P18,
>> and possibly win that event, and then be hooked for life because they won
>> something? What happens to that person when they try another event and
>> don't win? If, as has been suggested, competition scares people away, then
>> where do these people go? Do they go back to P18 and beat up on the less
>> experienced fliers, and P18 in a few short seasons follows the same trend
>> that every other indoor event has followed, or do they leave indoor?
>>
>> I guess I still fail to see how this event really grows indoor flying as
>> it is intended to do.
>>
>> So again I ask, is this event designed to truly and sustainably grow
>> indoor aeromodeling? Is this event just for fun to expose people to the
>> hobby and get them to some contests to see what indoor is like? Or is this
>> event designed to give some different faces a chance at winning?
>>
>> A lot of effort is being put into this event. I just want to make sure
>> everyone involved knows why it is being worked on so hard. Answer the
>> above questions to the satisfaction of the indoor community, and I am sure
>> it will be supported. Right now though, with the existence of plastic prop
>> events like Phantom Flash and Jetco ROG, I fail to see the niche P18 fills.
>>
>>
>> Please educate me on what this event is try to do and how it will meet
>> those goals.
>>
>> Chris Glynn
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 5, 2016, at 9:17 PM, William Gowen wdgowen_at_gmail.com
>> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Maybe you can just make a list of all the people who you consider too
>> advanced to fly the event and attach that to the rules.
>>
>> Or maybe you can come up with a rule that anyone who has ever flown a
>> legal AMA indoor duration model in their lifetime is barred from the event
>>
>> I really don't see that this event has any attraction for advanced
>> fliers. I've already said that I won't fly it. And that doesn't mean that
>> I'm opposed to the event.
>> On Jun 5, 2016 8:51 PM, "William Carney wcarneyjx_at_gmail.com
>> [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>> Ray,
>>>
>>> I propose that this event be flown as a two minute max event. No fly
>>> offs, no tie breakers. If an contestant wants to get full credit for
>>> his/her efforts they may but the times are scored as an official in LPP.
>>>
>>> The purpose of this proposal is the remove the incentive of "Experts"
>>> from flooding the event and making it unappealing to a true beginner. If
>>> you can get one of these things to fly for two minutes three times in one
>>> day you are probably ready to tackle a true LPP and then... By the time a
>>> beginner has gotten enough experience to "Max Out" a P-18 he or she has set
>>> the Indoor FF hook pretty deep.
>>>
>>> The rules, as written, produce an airplane that make two minutes a
>>> nominal goal. I kike seeing these models fly as they are very "indoor
>>> like" and I've seen their appeal to the public. I just don't want to see
>>> these things doing 5 minutes. Sure irt can probably be done but that is not
>>> the point of the event.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Bill C
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 3:54 PM, rbharlan_at_comcast.net
>>> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The cross proposal window is May 31 to July 15, so now is the time to
>>>> submit any cross proposals.
>>>>
>>>> I expect to submit one to change the prop size max to 6", instead of
>>>> 5.5". There are a lot more 6" props out there than 5.5's, namely at Volare
>>>> who has six kinds of 6" props.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't checked for a specific cross proposal form at AMA, and, of
>>>> course, if I check now, Yahoo will blow away all of this discourse and I
>>>> don't want to type it again
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What other ideas do you have for the event, Bill?.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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