Re: Are P-18 plans or Specs available?

From: William Carney <wcarneyjx_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:52:07 -0400

Sorry, wrong video. Will find the right one and post.

Bill C
On Mar 20, 2016 6:33 PM, "William Carney" <wcarneyjx_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Five or six of showed up at Wings Over the Rockies museum today and did a
> significant amount of hanger flying - the Real kind. I don't think there
> was a stopwatch I the building.
>
> I took a few pics and here's a video of my P-18. I'm planning to post the
> plan and maybe a build thread on Hippocket.
>
> Bill C
>
> https://youtu.be/vDiFGnyUWcw
> On Mar 20, 2016 12:35 PM, "Steve Corbin dayhead58_at_gmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I believe that indoor could attract more participants if more "beginner"
>> type classes are created. Planes that can be built in an hour, that in
>> basic form are capable of only one or two minutes of flight. I get bored
>> watching a plane fly in circles for more than a couple minutes.
>> Let's say I go to a flying site and pay my $5. I'm led to an area
>> where tables are set up, and I'm given a Guillows Strato Streak kit.
>>
>> The rule is that I can use only the materials in the kit, but I can
>> slice the parts up as I see fit. Oh, and I also get some tissue paper and a
>> foam cup, and I can use my own tools and adhesives, or those provided.
>>
>> So everybody starts out with the same resources, and can have as much
>> time to build as I want, although the doors don't open 'til 4 and the
>> flying starts at 7.
>>
>> No size or weight rules. Good rubber should be offered for sale.
>> Airplane must ROG. A panel of judges can name the entries, such as "most
>> innovative use of a Strato Streak kit", "most whimsical", 'most graceful
>> flight", etc.
>>
>> Look, the anal retentive serious indoor flyers have what they want
>> already.
>> But there are many others like me that simply aren't ready to jump off
>> the deep end. We'd like to just go have fun, without even using a stopwatch
>> sometimes. The good ol' KISS principle applied to a social gathering, where
>> you would see all types of aeronautical design being hatched from the crude
>> Guillows plane.
>> But if the F1D guys show up, that's even better, giving many an intro
>> to the good stuff.
>> Had I taken enough time I could have done a better job of getting my
>> point across, but so be it.
>> As far as I know, there is no indoor FF happening in my neck of the
>> woods. But there are a lot of big buildings, gyms, churches,etc.
>> I think that indoor FF has a lot to offer, but for some reason I never
>> hear of any around here.
>>
>> A "raw amateurs" beginners class would be a great way, I feel, to get
>> the next generation of serious FFer's started.
>>
>> How to get something started? Need to get it publicized so everyon can
>> know that on Tuesday nights there's a place to go and mingle with other
>> like minded folks.
>>
>> Ok, rant over. Return to your regular reading. Steve
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, William Carney wcarneyjx_at_gmail.com
>> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> J.bartek,
>>>
>>> I have a pretty good flying original design P-18 which is designed to
>>> meet the provional rules.
>>>
>>> Give me a few days to scrub the plan and get it ready for public
>>> consumption and I'll be happy to share.
>>>
>>> Bill C
>>> On Mar 17, 2016 8:53 AM, "j.bartek_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction]"
>>> <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been a perpetual beginner at indoor FF, but I've had fun with it,
>>>> and I'd like to have more. I've seen discussion of P-18 but don't know
>>>> what could be a viable version lately.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've built a 2015 S.O. Wright stuff plane and have flown it in the
>>>> school gym that the Chicago area Woodland Aeromodelers use as well as the
>>>> hangar at Rantoul which will be the site for this years Nats. I started
>>>> out with a couple tries at Chuck Markos' Double Whammy (flat plate version)
>>>> and have flown it to the ceiling at Racine's Memorial Hall a few times.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've seen the discussion on growing the hobby/sport, and I'd like to
>>>> speak for those for whom winning isn't the only thing. Flying is! Some of
>>>> my friends in the hobby never compete, because they build to their own
>>>> taste. I don't mind rules as long as I can get the plane built to them and
>>>> it will fly. No V/P props for my older fingers. Deli bucket ones or
>>>> molded balsa are fine. Ikara ones are good too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as indoor guys concentrating on their own thing and not making
>>>> much outreach effort, I've been fortunate to be within 100 miles of the
>>>> Bong Eagles club, who are good at outreach. They understand the need for a
>>>> web presence, and have a website that's on its second webmaster. Forums are
>>>> a good place for outreach. I've used the Free Flight Forum stuck in a
>>>> corner of RC Groups for some. I write up my flying sessions on my
>>>> DuPageJoe Blog. I've also used a thread on there to document my S.O. 2015
>>>> Wright Stuff plane. I was glad to have Don S. contribute his plans and
>>>> comments to that thread.
>>>>
>>>> *http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2271995*
>>>> <http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2271995>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our area is fortunate to have Chuck Markos participation in S.O. Wright
>>>> Stuff. I'll be out of town in April, but I hope other indoor flyers from
>>>> the Chicago are can help Chuck with the competition.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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