Re: Re: F1D rules change proposal

From: LeRoy C Cordes <lcordes_at_juno.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:58:08 -0600

Not being an F1D flyer I have stayed out of this but after reading the
proposal feel I have to insert my 2 cents. To me the line that really
turns me off is:

The top flyers might keep their chances to win but the gap could well be
closed

Over the years I have seen this justification used for rules changes in
many events - People, it doesn't work - the top flyers will remain the
top flyers except for the few who get disgusted and just plain quit.

LeRoy Cordes YOLO
Chicago, Illinois
AMA 16974 - WAA Pilot #337
In God We Trust

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:28:56 -0700 Chuck Etherington
<chuck.etherington_at_jeppesen.com> writes:



Hello,
 
A few of you already know me; my name is Chuck Etherington and I am the
US FAI representative to the CIAM. I belong to the Magnificent Mountain
Men (MMM) FF club and although my FAI event is F1C, I like to dabble a
little in indoor (mostly watching) during the Colorado winters. I’ve had
some conversations with several people about the Hungarian F1D proposal
and am familiar with the issue. As Nick pointed out, the first step is to
collect data to establish what the majority of US F1D flyers desire. I’m
pretty sure I know the answer but would be wise to confirm via a poll.
Unfortunately, the INAV poll doesn’t identify who the US fliers are.
However, due to the fact that no one thus far has voted in favor of the
proposal, I can easily draw the conclusion that the US indoor community,
as a whole, is opposed.
 
Once the poll has run its course (not sure how long it is intended to
run), the next step will be to lobby the FAI “technical experts”
representing the other voting countries. To do that I will need a
well-worded argument. I can compose one from the various messages I’ve
received and from forum threads, but it might be more appropriate (and
accurate) if two or three US F1D fliers collaborated. My suggestion would
be to start with the three “Reason” paragraphs in the proposal and break
them down point by point. A separate counter-point can be offered for
each. Aversions not previously discussed can then be introduced. Could I
get two or three F1D guys to take on that task? Please let me know.
Thanks.
 
Also, in compiling the info in INAV, Joshua Finn made a very good
suggestion: It is important that non US fliers contact the CIAM Technical
Expert(s) from their respective nations.
 
Chuck Etherington
 
From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Ray
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:52 PM
To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Indoor_Construction] Re: F1D rules change proposal
 
  
Much has been said on this topic already, some people have even contacted
their CIAM rep. I would like to ask you all to vote in the INAV poll.
Chuck has asked for as much data as possible to help him advocate for us.

 
http://indoornewsandviews.com/2014/02/12/828/
 
Thanks,
 
Nick
 
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM, mkirda_at_sbcglobal.net
<mkirda_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  
It would take an exceptionally dedicated 12 year old to make an F1D. If
my own kids are any sort of indication, girls should do better due to
their superior physical coordination. My daughter enjoys building for
short stretches, but I don't see her putting 40 hours plus into an F1D
anytime soon. LPP? Sure!

Not saying it can't be done. Having a mentor would drastically increase
the chances of success.

Regards.
Mike Kirda


--- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, Tapio Linkosalo
<tapio.linkosalo_at_...> wrote:
> I then claim that in Romania even 12 year old kids fly
> F1D, and they look back to me as if I was insane....
>
> So my point is that it all boils down to culture, and tradition.
>
> -Tapio-
>
 






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