Re: FAI Steering//Editorial
Greetings Hack,
Totally impractical and impossible. You cannot deduct thousandths of
a second for every slight touch with a pole. Also, don't forget that
many timekeepers in an event of this stature will be unfamiliar with
F1D's - some may be unfamiliar with modelling of any sort. The prop
stop time recorded by GBR timekeepers in Belgrade tallied with my own
watch exactly and the prop stop time is the most important factor
here. The timekeepers in Belgrade were very very well briefed and on
the ball and no major errors occurred.
I saw no evidence whatsoever of altitude gain through pointing a
model into wind. Although the drift was bad, we weren't sailing model
racing yachts in belgrade.
The balcony was deemed to be the floor - I asked that question
specifically at the TM briefing and I totally agree with the ruling
as did all TM's. Again, it's the same for all so no advantage for
anyone.
Nick.
--- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, <vhacker@...> wrote:
>
> The solution to the steering bit is quite easy.ALL STEERING time
will be
> deducted from the flight time. This would help eliminate the
socalled
> questrionable steers And all steering should be done from the
floor. No
> baconies Hack
>
> > I see the point, but touching the boom between the wing and stab
is not
> > the Leading edge of the stab and altitude can be gained by
turning the
> > model by the boom and holding it into the drift. Also the rule
clearly
> > states the front of the model, I pole steer a lot by catching the
plane
> > behind the prop just like a balloon steer and have no problems
even at
> > over 30', you let the plane fly onto the pole just like with a
balloon
> > string.
> >
> > A comment on the drift in the site would be appreciated by us who
have
> > not flown there.
> >
> > Fred Tellier
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nick Aikman
> > To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:09 AM
> > Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: FAI Steering//Editorial
> >
> >
> > I was at the Team Managers briefing and this was the
interpretation
> > of the rules given for the Euro Champs. I think that next year
will
> > have the same organisers, so they assume that the same
> > interpretations will probably apply. The organisers/Jury felt
that
> > the critical factor should be that the models should not be given
> > additional forward impetus and hence lift. Seems reasonable to me,
> > the rule was the same for all.
> >
> > Many of the top Europeans are very adept at pole steering. The
> > Hungarians, Lutz for Germany and the Romanians are all masters
at it
> > and often tap the wing or tail leading edges or the stick
assembly to
> > change direction with carbon poles up to 11 metres long. In
> > addition, a balcony on one side of the hall gave an extra 12
feet or
> > so to pole length if the model was near enough.
> >
> > Apart from GBR, not many of the Europeans enjoy or feel
comfortable
> > with a balloon and many flights came to grief or lost a lot of
> > altitude when steered that way.
> >
> > Nick.
> >
> > --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, "Fred Tellier"
<fred-
> > tellier_at_> wrote:
> > >
> > > What I don't understand is the statement that this
interpretation
> > of the rules will be used at the WC in 2008, I don't care about
the
> > ruling as such but deciding that it will be done at a WC is beyond
> > the scope of the Euro Champs organizers and jury. I would think
that
> > the WC jury might be the ones who should rule on this at the WC.
> > > I can't even relate to why this would come up unless they are
> > thinking of pole steering as Bill Gowen mentioned in his post.
> > >
> > > Fred Tellier
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mark
> > > To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:51 PM
> > > Subject: [Indoor_Construction] FAI Steering//Editorial
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, "Slobodan Midic"
> > > <slomi_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In the FAI Sporting code, 4, Vol F1, point 3.4.7 a)
> > > under "Steering", second
> > > > sentence, write: " ...all steering shall be done from the
> > front end
> > > > of the model and never from behind."
> > > >
> > > > At European Championship hold in Belgrade in August this
> > regulation
> > > was
> > > > explained so that steering was permissible from front edge
of
> > wing,
> > > and
> > > > front edge of stabilizer. This will be also at WCh next year
> > in
> > > Belgrade.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ah, so "from the front end of model" really means from front
OR
> > back,
> > > either way. Obviously, every "rear end" has a "front part" of
> > said
> > > rear end, so is this not an insult to language and its
> > distinctions?
> > > Fortunately, steering from LE of a stab is likely to lead to
> > > breakage, but I have accidentally bumped stabs without
(further)
> > mishap. Thanks, European officials. I will now
> > > expect "interpretations" in other rules, as it suits the
moment.
> > Maybe "Maximum motor weight .600 gram" can now be interpreted as
> > Minimum OR Maximum."
> > >
> > > Was this enacted to please those who bungled steers from
behind?
> > >
> > > Why can't we change rules if they are not suitable, instead of
> > insulting normal intelligence?
> > > Mark F1diddler
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Received on Mon Sep 10 2007 - 13:32:06 CEST
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