Re: Re: FAI Steering//Editorial

From: <vhacker_at_pol.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:32:12 -0400 (EDT)

The solution to the steering bit is quite easy.ALL STEERING time will be
deducted from the flight time. This would help eliminate the socalled
questrionable steers And all steering should be done from the floor. No
baconies Hack

> I see the point, but touching the boom between the wing and stab is not
> the Leading edge of the stab and altitude can be gained by turning the
> model by the boom and holding it into the drift. Also the rule clearly
> states the front of the model, I pole steer a lot by catching the plane
> behind the prop just like a balloon steer and have no problems even at
> over 30', you let the plane fly onto the pole just like with a balloon
> string.
>
> A comment on the drift in the site would be appreciated by us who have
> not flown there.
>
> Fred Tellier
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nick Aikman
> To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:09 AM
> Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: FAI Steering//Editorial
>
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> I was at the Team Managers briefing and this was the interpretation
> of the rules given for the Euro Champs. I think that next year will
> have the same organisers, so they assume that the same
> interpretations will probably apply. The organisers/Jury felt that
> the critical factor should be that the models should not be given
> additional forward impetus and hence lift. Seems reasonable to me,
> the rule was the same for all.
>
> Many of the top Europeans are very adept at pole steering. The
> Hungarians, Lutz for Germany and the Romanians are all masters at it
> and often tap the wing or tail leading edges or the stick assembly to
> change direction with carbon poles up to 11 metres long. In
> addition, a balcony on one side of the hall gave an extra 12 feet or
> so to pole length if the model was near enough.
>
> Apart from GBR, not many of the Europeans enjoy or feel comfortable
> with a balloon and many flights came to grief or lost a lot of
> altitude when steered that way.
>
> Nick.
>
> --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, "Fred Tellier" <fred-
> tellier_at_...> wrote:
> >
> > What I don't understand is the statement that this interpretation
> of the rules will be used at the WC in 2008, I don't care about the
> ruling as such but deciding that it will be done at a WC is beyond
> the scope of the Euro Champs organizers and jury. I would think that
> the WC jury might be the ones who should rule on this at the WC.
> > I can't even relate to why this would come up unless they are
> thinking of pole steering as Bill Gowen mentioned in his post.
> >
> > Fred Tellier
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark
> > To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:51 PM
> > Subject: [Indoor_Construction] FAI Steering//Editorial
> >
> >
> > --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, "Slobodan Midic"
> > <slomi_at_> wrote:
> > >
> > > In the FAI Sporting code, 4, Vol F1, point 3.4.7 a)
> > under "Steering", second
> > > sentence, write: " ...all steering shall be done from the
> front end
> > > of the model and never from behind."
> > >
> > > At European Championship hold in Belgrade in August this
> regulation
> > was
> > > explained so that steering was permissible from front edge of
> wing,
> > and
> > > front edge of stabilizer. This will be also at WCh next year
> in
> > Belgrade.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ah, so "from the front end of model" really means from front OR
> back,
> > either way. Obviously, every "rear end" has a "front part" of
> said
> > rear end, so is this not an insult to language and its
> distinctions?
> > Fortunately, steering from LE of a stab is likely to lead to
> > breakage, but I have accidentally bumped stabs without (further)
> mishap. Thanks, European officials. I will now
> > expect "interpretations" in other rules, as it suits the moment.
> Maybe "Maximum motor weight .600 gram" can now be interpreted as
> Minimum OR Maximum."
> >
> > Was this enacted to please those who bungled steers from behind?
> >
> > Why can't we change rules if they are not suitable, instead of
> insulting normal intelligence?
> > Mark F1diddler
> >
> >
> >
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