Re: Partial Motors

From: Bill Gowen <b.gowen_at_earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:56:58 -0500

One detail is missing from your description. Do you use a 1 gram dummy for the other half of the motor when you do half motor tests? I would guess that you do - just making sure. Otherwise what you are describing is a good technique.

As far as the full motor having more torque - that's not the problem. The problem is that the full motor will deliver high torque for twice as long as a half motor. So if your model is about to act ugly on full torque on a half motor, there's an even better chance that something bad will happen on the full motor. For instance your model might be beginning to power stall on the partial motor, but will not actually stall because the torque is dropping off. On the full motor this same trim might result in a full blown stall and ruined flight. Another possibility that I am very familiar with is the outboard wing might be beginning to washout on the partial motor flight but the torque will drop fast enough that the model will recover. The full motor will just keep pulling until the model does a death spiral.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: calgoddard
  To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 6:00 PM
  Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Partial Motors


  I tried to post a similar message the other day, but it seems to
  have disappeared. I apologize if this is a repeat.

  Some prior posts seemed to imply that full motors will exhibit
  higher torque than partial motors. Maybe I misread the posts.

  My experience has been that, for a given rubber type (e.g. specific
  batch of Tan II stored the same way) and thickness (e.g. .093
  inches), if, for example, 800 turns on a half-size motor indicates a
  torque reading of 1.0 on a torque meter, then 1600 turns on a full-
  size motor will also indicate a torque of 1.0 on the same torque
  meter. I measure the motor "size" by weight, although I understand
  many experts go by the length. Obviously, you can't extrapolate
  torque for a motor wound, for example, two times previously to one
  that has never been wound.

  This is the basis on which our team does half-motor flights and then
  extropolates height and time that should result on full motor
  flights. We have observed that on a full 2.0 gram motor, double the
  winds and the same torque will fairly accurately double the flight
  height and flight duration of a flight with a 1.0 gram motor (again
  assuming same rubber type, thickness and prior wind history). Of
  course, you have to fly the same plane trimmed the same way under
  the same conditions.

  Apparently the smaller the partial motor is as a percentage of the
  full motor, the less reliable the extrapolation. In other words,
  half motor flights are generally a better predictor than quarter-
  motor flights.

  Am I missing something here? Maybe there are minute differencs in
  torque but it shouldn't be significant in predicting the performance
  of a Science Olympiad plane on full motors based on partial motor
  flights. Perhaps it matters in F1D.

  Calgoddard



   

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