Re: Re: Jury Statement on Purchased VP Hubs and ESTA reminder for the 2018 Indoor WC

From: Mike and Marelet Kirda <mkirda_at_sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 17:23:34 +0000 (UTC)

Hi Bill.
I think it is obvious I replaced VP with MODEL.
The same logic applies to a ready to fly model.
BOM has been reduced to removing the flying surfaces from a box and assembling them.
Regards.Mike Kirda

 

    On Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:18 AM, "William Gowen wdgowen_at_gmail.com [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

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Mike
I think you should make clear that the statement in your email is not quoting the actual jury statement.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Mike and Marelet Kirda mkirda_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:

   "While the VP is an important part of the model in case the available height of the site is limited, a purchased MODEL is not in RTF state. The usage of such MODEL needs expertise, measurements and test flights to harmonize its setting with the size and setting of the prop and the rest of the model, rubber, available height and actual conditions in the site. Therefore, the jury agrees to continue the practice applied at several previous championships, i. e. not banning the usage of purchased MODELS."
Amazing how slippery that logic is.
 

    On Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:02 AM, "john_kagan_at_hotmail.com [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_ yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

 

While I do not agree with the logic, I commend the FAI Juryfor finally clarifying this issue.  Thankyou, Leo, for bringing this to their attention.   There is a certain genius in their ruling.  It keeps the previous records intact, and removesa significant hurdle for the upcoming World Championships.  These are good things.   But it also leaves the door wide open for proposing changesgoing forward.  For example, the BOM Ruleis not about adjusting things, it is about building them.  The ruling, as it stands, can effectively beapplied to any model part, and in fact a complete model (assuming it has notalready been trimmed for the site).   This puts the ball squarely back into the court of anyonewho wants the Builder of the Model rule to apply.  The clear path toward that goal is nowthrough the rule change process.



      





   
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