Bill
I really wanted to pull the discussion away from the WC situation.
We have no jurisdiction as a Yahoo group on the regs as written or their
interpretation.
If we can discuss the implications, thoughts, feelings and future on the
group as a pure discussion where views can be aired, I think we all stand
to gain some insight.
Mike's suggestion to constrain the discussion to F1D is a good one.
Although I see F1N is now FIA recognised.
Best regards
Simon
On 6 March 2018 at 15:36, William Gowen wdgowen_at_gmail.com
[Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> The World Champs is not the place for this issue to be decided. If people
> wanted to ban bought hubs the rules should have been clarified long before
> now. How many people coming to West Baden are going to be at risk of
> disqualification? My guess is a lot.
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> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Mike and Marelet Kirda
> mkirda_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_
> yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Simon..
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>> Rather than focus on F1N, let's keep it at F1D as that is what sparked
>> this conversation.
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>> F1D kit - Yes, of course they would be allowed, assuming that the kit
>> supplied balsa and covering and such and the parts had to be built. A fully
>> put together and covered model that the modeler had to plug in the wings,
>> stab and prop would not be considered 'building'.
>>
>> Harlan bearing, yes, of course.
>> Use of carbon rod, yes, of course. (We don't need to grow our own balsa
>> trees.)
>>
>> Where does one draw the line?
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>> Somewhere between a Harlan bearing and a fully assembled VP mechanism is
>> where I would draw it.
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>> I can see a VP kit being allowable as the modeler would still need to
>> build it, glue parts together and such.
>> I can see unfinished carbon prop blades being allowable.
>> I can even see unfinished carbon tubes meant for fuselages being
>> allowable.
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>> Regards.
>> Mike Kirda
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>> On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 3:17 AM, "simon bargery bargerysimon_at_gmail.com
>> [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Good day group.
>> The comments on this purchased VP aspect make interesting reading.
>> They seem centred around the general 'Builder of Model' rule.
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>> Would you consider someone buying and building a kit is the builder of
>> the model??
>> I doubt if F1D kits will ever become available, but if they did, would
>> they be against the BOM rule?
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>> There are F1N kits about - can they be purchased, built and flown and
>> still comply with the BOM rule?
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>> A lot can depend on the definition of 'building' a plane, and whether all
>> components must be 'built' too...
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>> If I use a carbon tube for a wing post will I need to have made it myself
>> from carbon cloth?
>> Do I need to weave the cloth from tow?
>>
>> Are Harlan type bearings allowed?
>>
>> I think there are various interpretations of this rule around, supported
>> by various opinions.
>> It's not particularly clear what the intent is.
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>> Quite possibly the intent is a simple as preventing a team using one
>> model for all members.
>> The addition of a number on the model does indicate that the organisers
>> want to be able to tell who it 'belongs to'.
>> One flier could have several models with the same number on them.
>>
>> This is a discussion group, can we discuss the various opinions?
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>> --
>> Best regards
>>
>> Simon Bargery
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Best regards
Simon Bargery
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