Re: Re: AMA General Rules Proposals that will affect AMA Indoor

From: Jake Palmer <82.jake_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 08:27:04 -0800

Perhaps I should use the term youths. I know the AMA distinguishes
different age categories, but I always refer to anyone 18 or under as a
junior for the sake simplicity. So yes, juniors and seniors.

I hadn't considered gliders, but it sounds like you need to do some work on
your unlimited glider :)

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:10 AM, William Gowen wdgowen_at_gmail.com
[Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Actually it's Juniors and Seniors in many model classes and catapult
> gliders in all age classes. When I started flying gliders the Cat 1 and Cat
> 2 Open records were held by one set of flights with a standard class
> glider. And of course the current Cat 1 Open records in both classes are
> held by one set of flights with a standard class glider. At this point in
> time my standard class Cat 2 glider outperforms my unlimited glider.
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:46 PM, Jake Palmer 82.jake_at_gmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Not only juniors, just primarily juniors. Most Open records are not
>> obtainable without a model specifically built for the rules, so at least in
>> indoor it would be extremely rare to break 2 records with one flight. This
>> is much more common with juniors. I broke both the LPP and PP records in a
>> couple categories when I was a junior, and I know others have done the
>> same.
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2018 7:29 PM, "William Gowen wdgowen_at_gmail.com
>> [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why do you say this proposal only affects junior class fliers?
>>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2018 10:18 PM, "Jake Palmer 82.jake_at_gmail.com
>>> [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks like he simply added the words "and a possible national record
>>> as well" without fixing the rest of the proposal. His examples are already
>>> specifically disallowed by section 10 of the outdoor free flight rule book,
>>> and his proposed revision has no affect on contest results anyways. This
>>> means he doesn't understand the revision he's proposed, he doesn't know the
>>> outdoor free flight rules, or he's worded the proposal in an intentionally
>>> deceiving way.
>>>
>>> In any case we should be pointing this out to all the other contest
>>> board members and voting against this proposal. We should also emphasize
>>> that this will generally only affect junior age fliers, and it seems unwise
>>> to pass rules that could potentially discourage them from competing.
>>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2018 4:33 PM, "wdgowen_at_gmail.com [Indoor_Construction]" <
>>> Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> General proposal GEN19-01 is back up on the AMA website. This is the
>>>> one that requires separate flights to set records in more than one
>>>> event..... It affects all types of aeromodeling where records are kept.
>>>> Here's the note from Tony Stillman:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Contest Board members:
>>>> This proposal would modify the National Records section of the General
>>>> Section Competition Regulations. As such, only contest boards that have
>>>> record activity as part of their competitions would be involved in voting
>>>> on this proposal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a basic proposal, so it will follow the normal procedure for
>>>> such.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony Stillman
>>>>
>>>> Flying Site Assistance Coordinator/Competitions- Technical Director
>>>>
>>>> Academy of Model Aeronautics
>>>> www.modelaircraft.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
Received on Fri Jan 26 2018 - 16:27:10 CET