Re: What Goes Around Comes Around

From: Jake Palmer <82.jake_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:36:03 -0800

Perhaps this hasn't been advertised well enough and loud enough.

*THESE PROPOSALS ARE GOING TO BE WITHDRAWN*

They were made in error as general rules proposals. They were intended to
be proposals for outdoor free flight. I continue to see conversations
here, on Facebook, on Hippocket, and private messages directly to me from
people in the district I represent. While I appreciate all the enthusiasm,
this doesn't need to be discussed further.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Chris pseshooter3d_at_yahoo.com
[Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> Tom, thank you for the historical perspective. I haven’t been playing
> this game nearly long enough to have been part of those days, so take my
> comments for what they are worth.
>
> At the contests I have attended, it seems like most people usually end up
> flying against a record, whether it be national, a site record, or even a
> personal best. F1D might be the exception to that, as I have witnessed
> some pretty great competitive F1D flying.
>
> I can’t speak for everyone else here, but I don’t think anyone is saying
> we have to fly all of the established events at every contest. Rather the
> idea is that if this rule proposal is adopted into the books, the records
> for the vast majority of events will no longer be kept. The way I
> interpret the situation is then there would be no more records for those
> events, and thus flyers would have nothing to fly against, and those events
> would be effectively dead.
>
> If we want to keep flying for records in events such as AROG, EZB, A6,
> Autogiro, IHLS, Manhattan Cabin, Ornithopter, etc, we should not accept any
> rule that discards them from the record books.
>
> That said, I definitely don’t support this rule change, and doubt many
> other AMA flyers would either, as it affects ALL aspects of aero modeling
> that are sanctioned by AMA.
>
> CG
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 8, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Thomas Finch tomfinch2_at_hotmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Harking back to the early 60's, There were six main indoor classes: AROG,
> B, C and D stick and B and C cabin. Helicopter and Autogyro plus ROW were
> also there but very seldom flown. FAI stick was really a subset of D and
> Wally Miller had just come up with easy B which was being flown locally in
> SoCal. The Nats just flew Stick and Cabin but those of us who were active
> really competed against the records. A group spearheaded by Bud Tenney
> decided that there were too many classes and lobbied AMA to cut down the
> number. The only reason they really came up with was that it took too
> much effort by HQ to keep up with all the records. At that time, Frank
> Ehling was Technical Director and he assured me that it really wasn't any
> trouble at all. Anyway they won and a bunch of classes were eliminated.
> Here we are again almost 50 years later and the situation sounds awfully
> similar. Leave the less popular classes in for those who want to compete
> against the record.
>
> Tom Finch
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Received on Mon Jan 08 2018 - 23:36:06 CET