Re: TAN II Rubber

From: Chris <pseshooter3d_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 19:34:46 -0400

My experience with getting assistance in indoor has been similar, yet very different. The first indoor meet I attended I had a Jetco ROG model that literally would not get off the ground. I chased that thing all over the floor, much to the amusement of the other club members. But when I finally had enough of that noise, I introduced myself to a known expert flyer. I politely explained that my model sucked, and asked if he could take a look at it. He was more than willing to look at my model and offer some suggestions. A few tweaks here and there, and the ROG was actually ROG-ing.

I have had similar experiences at regional and national level contests as well. People are more than willing to help, you just have to ask. At least any time I have asked a question, everyone from local flyers to world champions and record holders have been more than willing to offer some advice or explain how something could or should be done.

CG

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> On May 15, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Tim Stone stone-tim_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Above all I have my brother, Al to thank for all his guidance in getting back to indoor. He continues to encourage me.
> As far as "All of the experts out there ! are more than willing to help the beginners progress to expert level..." I have yet to
> really see that. All the time I spent snapping motors & grumbling about it, nobody even once in 3 years walked over & took
> any interest in my foibles. In 3 years of flying nobody even once turned me on to a good wood supplier, much less offer to
> share some of their precious stash (which unfortunately their future widows will probably just throw away). Not once in 3 years did anyone
> see me flying & offer me trimming advice except for Jeff Annias, unless you count an unnamed person that shouted across a crowd
> what he felt I was doing wrong several times without even introducing himself.
> I did see Larry Coslick bending over backward to mentor Evan, who seems like a fine young man.
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> I am not bitter or angry, just food for thought. I think so far this thread has generated some good discussion. Thanks go out to
> Chuck & Don Sluszarek for taking the time to share some well taken advice.
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> On Monday, May 15, 2017 3:12 PM, "Chris pseshooter3d_at_yahoo.com [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> The beauty of indoor is that you can make it whatever want. You can choose to spend big bucks on the best wood and best rubber, and if you work hard enough, you will be competitive. You can also choose to spend less money on wood and rubber, and if you take the time to pick the best of the wood you have, and the best of the rubber you have (or bum a few feet of the good stuff from a friend) and you work hard enough, you will be competitive.
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> I have noticed there is an attitude by some modelers out there that indoor should be easy, and when those individuals find out it isn't, they whine about how hard it is, try to change the rules to make it easier for them (while not realizing it will also make it easier for the really good flyers as well...the 6.2g NoCal rule comes to mind) or simply give up flying indoor.
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> For the quitters out there, I don't know what to say. I guess this is a hobby and if it's too hard and no longer fun, then I understand not doing it anymore.
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> But for those that stick with it, appreciate that to be really good at indoor, it takes dedication and hard work. One cannot simply walk into an indoor contest with their first model ever and expect to set a record.
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> If you look at the current list of "who's who" in indoor aeromodeling, you will see the vast majority of them have years, sometimes even decades of experience. That experience is what makes them the best. It's not their balsa, or their rubber, but rather what they are capable of doing with their balsa and rubber that separates the experts from the beginners.
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> But here's the rub. All of the experts out there ! are more than willing to help the beginners progress to expert level. Beginners just need to listen to the advice they are given, execute that advice, and then record what they did. Though I have noticed far too many beginners do not want to heed the advice of more experienced flyers, preferring to learn it all on their own. I guess there is something to that, but it's definitely the long and hard road.
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> CG
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>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Tim Stone stone-tim_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> I do not begrudge Greenman for not having a website at all. I know that it takes a lot of time to maintain that sort of thing and that's not what he is into.
>> He is providing top-quality balsa for a very select number of fliers and I'm sure that just maintaining email contact keeps him plenty busy. I appreciate you giving back to the indoor community as you have in the past years. A to Z supply and you enabled me to get back in to indoor flying a few years ago and I really appreciate it. For the most part however indoor flying has become a very expensive and bewildering Easter egg hunt.
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>>> On May 15, 2017, at 12:49 PM, mkirda_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>> In defense of Greenman, having a web site costs money and doesn't net you a whole lot in sales anyway.
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>>> The market is so small and specialized, I don't think it makes a lot of sense to build up an e-commerce site.
>>> Certainly in my case I'd end up losing money monthly.
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>>> Regards.
>>> Mike Kirda
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