Re: TAN II Rubber

From: Jake Palmer <82.jake_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 16:33:59 -0700

Tim,

Have you ever asked for advice or help and been denied? I don't spend my
time at contests walking from table to table offering unsolicited advice,
but I'd like to think I've given whatever help I could offer when asked.

Jake

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Tim Stone stone-tim_at_sbcglobal.net
[Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Above all I have my brother, Al to thank for all his guidance in
> getting back to indoor. He continues to encourage me.
> As far as "All of the experts out there ! are more than willing to help
> the beginners progress to expert level..." I have yet to
> really see that. All the time I spent snapping motors & grumbling about
> it, nobody even once in 3 years walked over & took
> any interest in my foibles. In 3 years of flying nobody even once turned
> me on to a good wood supplier, much less offer to
> share some of their precious stash (which unfortunately their future
> widows will probably just throw away). Not once in 3 years did anyone
> see me flying & offer me trimming advice except for Jeff Annias, unless
> you count an unnamed person that shouted across a crowd
> what he felt I was doing wrong several times without even introducing
> himself.
> I did see Larry Coslick bending over backward to mentor Evan, who seems
> like a fine young man.
>
> I am not bitter or angry, just food for thought. I think so far this
> thread has generated some good discussion. Thanks go out to
> Chuck & Don Sluszarek for taking the time to share some well taken advice.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 15, 2017 3:12 PM, "Chris pseshooter3d_at_yahoo.com
> [Indoor_Construction]" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>
>
> The beauty of indoor is that you can make it whatever want. You can
> choose to spend big bucks on the best wood and best rubber, and if you work
> hard enough, you will be competitive. You can also choose to spend less
> money on wood and rubber, and if you take the time to pick the best of the
> wood you have, and the best of the rubber you have (or bum a few feet of
> the good stuff from a friend) and you work hard enough, you will be
> competitive.
>
> I have noticed there is an attitude by some modelers out there that indoor
> should be easy, and when those individuals find out it isn't, they whine
> about how hard it is, try to change the rules to make it easier for them
> (while not realizing it will also make it easier for the really good flyers
> as well...the 6.2g NoCal rule comes to mind) or simply give up flying
> indoor.
>
> For the quitters out there, I don't know what to say. I guess this is a
> hobby and if it's too hard and no longer fun, then I understand not doing
> it anymore.
>
> But for those that stick with it, appreciate that to be really good at
> indoor, it takes dedication and hard work. One cannot simply walk into an
> indoor contest with their first model ever and expect to set a record.
>
> If you look at the current list of "who's who" in indoor aeromodeling, you
> will see the vast majority of them have years, sometimes even decades of
> experience. That experience is what makes them the best. It's not their
> balsa, or their rubber, but rather what they are capable of doing with
> their balsa and rubber that separates the experts from the beginners.
>
> But here's the rub. All of the experts out there ! are more than willing
> to help the beginners progress to expert level. Beginners just need to
> listen to the advice they are given, execute that advice, and then record
> what they did. Though I have noticed far too many beginners do not want to
> heed the advice of more experienced flyers, preferring to learn it all on
> their own. I guess there is something to that, but it's definitely the
> long and hard road.
>
> CG
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Tim Stone stone-tim_at_sbcglobal.net
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I do not begrudge Greenman for not having a website at all. I know that
> it takes a lot of time to maintain that sort of thing and that's not what
> he is into.
> He is providing top-quality balsa for a very select number of fliers and
> I'm sure that just maintaining email contact keeps him plenty busy. I
> appreciate you giving back to the indoor community as you have in the past
> years. A to Z supply and you enabled me to get back in to indoor flying a
> few years ago and I really appreciate it. For the most part however indoor
> flying has become a very expensive and bewildering Easter egg hunt.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 12:49 PM, mkirda_at_sbcglobal.net [Indoor_Construction] <
> Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> In defense of Greenman, having a web site costs money and doesn't net you
> a whole lot in sales anyway.
>
> The market is so small and specialized, I don't think it makes a lot of
> sense to build up an e-commerce site.
> Certainly in my case I'd end up losing money monthly.
>
> Regards.
> Mike Kirda
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