Re: Re: F1D motor tube stiffness?

From: Dezso Orsovai <orsid48_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 02:47:46 -0800 (PST)

Hi Boys,
You can see my 89 model data sheet in the attachment file.
All the best
Dezso Orsovai

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On Mon, 2/24/14, ykleetx_at_gmail.com <ykleetx_at_gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Indoor_Construction] Re: F1D motor tube stiffness?
 To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, February 24, 2014, 10:26 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Tapio,
 I have a
 couple of thoughts on your issue.
 You might try to set up your model
 with opposite wash, so that under high torque, the right
 wing does not have excessive washout.  It's how Orsovai
 had set up his model for the mine for his 37+ min flight at
 last year's Otto Hints contest.
 To climb in a tight, controlled
 spiral, it is typical to use a large amount of left wing
 wash-in.  In fact, I have been worried that my motor tubes
 are too stiff torsionally (I use .015" balsa), and I am
 going to build a couple of back-up motor sticks using
 .013" wood.
 There
 is another reason that your model might be experiencing
 right-wing tuck.  It is that you don't have enough
 decalage.  Under high tension and torsion, the motor stick
 bows and twists.  Both forces will reduce the angle of
 attack of the right wing tip.  Are you flying a new model
 that is either shorter or has a smaller stab?  Or, have you
 moved the CG backwards?  These would reduce your static
 stability and result in a trim with small
 decalage,
 I ask these
 questions because I believe it's rare to see the right
 wing tuck problem in F1D -- other than those caused by a
 loose joint or excessively weak wing or post.
 I hope this helps.
 -Kang
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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