Re: Beginner events and why they're hard for beginners

From: joemargbartek <j.bartek_at_sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:56:13 -0000

Thanks for info on the condenser plane. I found a Japanese kit for a small one of these at a swap meet and they are fun to fly. I posted a picture of my Double Whammy in the Photo Albums. I hope other Double Whammy builders will post there also.

Joe

--- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, Fred or Judy Rash <frash@...> wrote:
>
> I flew Chuck Markos' Science Olympiad (still trial event) Capacitor
> plane yesterday for 5 two-minute flights. It uses a 10-Farad capacitor
> charged with 2 AA cells and uses a 6- or 7-mm diameter pager motor and a
> 65-mm diameter prop. The article and plans appeared in the 2011 NFFS
> Symposium Report.
>
> I have mentored Science Olympiad model airplane events at the local
> middle school that my two kids attended long ago. I think that Chuck's
> Double Whammy was also intended for Science Olympiad. I have seen the
> plan and article, but never built one. I believe that these two Markos
> designs were aimed at the same objectives, have about the same flight
> duration, and have about the same complexity. The power source is the
> only major difference.
>
> Fred Rash
>
> On 10/10/2012 7:12 PM, joemargbartek wrote:
> >
> > Has anybody tried Chuck Markos' "Double Whammy" (Nov. '99 Model
> > Aviation)for this sort of thing. It can go to a 40 foot ceiling and
> > last 2 minutes. The prop is off a Delta Dart and the wing is flat plate.
> >
> > Bong Eagles have mass launch events with it where they have everybody
> > use rubber from the same batch. Its the first indoor rubber plane I've
> > built that will beat No-cals.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bob Clemens"
> > <rclemens2_at_> wrote:
> > >
> > > For what itâEUR^(TM)s worth, I believe for a beginner competition
> > event to be viable there needs to be a category that experienced
> > indoor fliers cannot enter and whose model specifications will not
> > daunt the beginner, for instance an EZB size model using A6 rules.
> > Such a model would fly at least several minutes even when built by a
> > newcomer. IMO even a basic Penny Plane is too complex a leap for
> > someone whoâEUR^(TM)s never built an indoor model before.
> > >
> > > Also we need more public exposure via flight demos at schools, scout
> > troops, and science fairs with handouts to pass out to spectators and
> > leaders. Just about no one in the general population has ever even
> > heard of, much less seen in action, a rubber-powered model plane
> > designed for indoor flying. Perhaps starting and mentoring a model
> > club or model building class in a local grade or high school would
> > work to some extent. Has anyone ever tried a flight demo between
> > halves of a school basketball game using robust models that could
> > successfully ride the turbulence?
> > >
> > > Even with the above, expect interest and awe but few recruits.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob Clemens
> > >
> >
> >
>
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