Re: Re: Beginner events and why they're hard for beginners

From: Fred or Judy Rash <frash_at_chartertn.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:54:58 -0400

I flew Chuck Markos' Science Olympiad (still trial event) Capacitor
plane yesterday for 5 two-minute flights. It uses a 10-Farad capacitor
charged with 2 AA cells and uses a 6- or 7-mm diameter pager motor and a
65-mm diameter prop. The article and plans appeared in the 2011 NFFS
Symposium Report.

I have mentored Science Olympiad model airplane events at the local
middle school that my two kids attended long ago. I think that Chuck's
Double Whammy was also intended for Science Olympiad. I have seen the
plan and article, but never built one. I believe that these two Markos
designs were aimed at the same objectives, have about the same flight
duration, and have about the same complexity. The power source is the
only major difference.

Fred Rash

On 10/10/2012 7:12 PM, joemargbartek wrote:
>
> Has anybody tried Chuck Markos' "Double Whammy" (Nov. '99 Model
> Aviation)for this sort of thing. It can go to a 40 foot ceiling and
> last 2 minutes. The prop is off a Delta Dart and the wing is flat plate.
>
> Bong Eagles have mass launch events with it where they have everybody
> use rubber from the same batch. Its the first indoor rubber plane I've
> built that will beat No-cals.
>
> Joe
>
> --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bob Clemens"
> <rclemens2_at_...> wrote:
> >
> > For what itâEUR^(TM)s worth, I believe for a beginner competition
> event to be viable there needs to be a category that experienced
> indoor fliers cannot enter and whose model specifications will not
> daunt the beginner, for instance an EZB size model using A6 rules.
> Such a model would fly at least several minutes even when built by a
> newcomer. IMO even a basic Penny Plane is too complex a leap for
> someone whoâEUR^(TM)s never built an indoor model before.
> >
> > Also we need more public exposure via flight demos at schools, scout
> troops, and science fairs with handouts to pass out to spectators and
> leaders. Just about no one in the general population has ever even
> heard of, much less seen in action, a rubber-powered model plane
> designed for indoor flying. Perhaps starting and mentoring a model
> club or model building class in a local grade or high school would
> work to some extent. Has anyone ever tried a flight demo between
> halves of a school basketball game using robust models that could
> successfully ride the turbulence?
> >
> > Even with the above, expect interest and awe but few recruits.
> >
> >
> > Bob Clemens
> >
>
>
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