Re: Re: Beginner events and why they're hard for beginners

From: Ken Achee <ken_at_achee.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:54:53 -0500

You did a great job on national TV Larry. Congratulations...

Ken

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Heike Cailliau
<heikecailliau_at_sbcglobal.net>wrote:

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> Hi, Just wanted to tell you conrats, and great flying. Job well done!
> Also wanted to let you know that I am finally a part of this website.
>
> Larry and Heike
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> --- On *Fri, 9/7/12, Yuan Kang Lee <ykleetx_at_gmail.com>* wrote:
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> From: Yuan Kang Lee <ykleetx_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Beginner events and why they're hard
> for beginners
> To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 7, 2012, 7:56 PM
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> Bill, and others,
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> I talk and work with a lot of beginners at our club's flying sessions, and
> I understand a lot of the issues that a beginner faces. My experience as a
> beginner is different from most of the fliers that I meet, but I can see
> clearly what's going on with them. In time, I can discuss the beginner
> difficulties that I see.
>
> -Kang
>
> --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Bill Carney <wcarneyjx_at_...> wrote:
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> > Kang,
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> > I realize you are fairly new to the hobby but have very rapidly
> progressed to an expert level. Yours in not the typical experience.
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> > You talk about density and stiffness of motor sticks etc. The averag e
> beginner, the person we need to attract, doesn't yet understand these con
> cepts in a practical way  let alone need to be told not to worry about
> them as a beginner.
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> > They need to get a model in the air that can fly more than 5 minutes and
> have some experts encourage him/her, not come right behind themn and triple
> their flight time.
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> > The scenario has happened over and over again. A beg inner event is
> introduced and within a year the designs are so perfected and the trimming
> so perfect that no beginner ever wins the event again.
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> > I think the current events are fine. I would just like to see a beginner
> event tha t stays a beginner event.
> >
> >
> > Bill Carney
> > That Florida Indoor Guy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yuan Kang Lee" <ykleetx_at_...>
> > To: "Indoor Construction" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>>
>
> > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:43:27 PM
> > Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Beginner events and why they're hard
> for beginners
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> > Â
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> > The first thing I discovered when I started flying F1D is that a F1D is
> a lot easier to launch than the "beginner" models I fly. I have spent a lot
> of time on EZB, F1L, and Limited Pennyplane (LPP). Raise your hand if you
> have had your EZB or F1L dive on launch because the motor stick was too
> flexible? (Both mine are raised.)
> > In an ironic way, we have made our beginner models harder to fly than
> F1D. Of course, we know one reason -- a solid wood motor stick is easy to
> build but it generally does not work well under high torque and tension of
> the rubber motor.
> > Bracing a solid motor stick is relatively easy to do, whether using wood
> bracing or thread. Bracing substantially increases the performance of the
> motor stick. Not only will this help to make these beginner models launch
> better, allowing bracing means the quality of the solid motor stick does
> not have to be as good. Hobby shop balsa can be used. A lighter MS can be
> used, and the weight budget can be used elsewhere. These all greatly lower
> the barrier of entry for the beginner -- YET, these effects increases the
> performance of the model for the beginner. You don't usually find these
> "win-win" scenarios.
> > -Kang
> >
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