Re: Re: Beginner events and why they're hard for beginners

From: William Gowen <wdgowen_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:54:20 -0400

Welcome Larry!

On 9/8/2012 2:30 AM, Heike Cailliau wrote:
>
> Hi, Just wanted to tell you conrats, and great flying. Job well done!
> Also wanted to let you know that I am finally a part of this website.
> Larry and Heike
>
> --- On *Fri, 9/7/12, Yuan Kang Lee /<ykleetx_at_gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Yuan Kang Lee <ykleetx_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Beginner events and why they're
> hard for beginners
> To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 7, 2012, 7:56 PM
>
> Bill, and others,
>
> I talk and work with a lot of beginners at our club's flying
> sessions, and I understand a lot of the issues that a beginner
> faces. My experience as a beginner is different from most of the
> fliers that I meet, but I can see clearly what's going on with
> them. In time, I can discuss the beginner difficulties that I see.
>
> -Kang
>
> --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> <http://us.mc1811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Bill Carney <wcarneyjx_at_...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Kang,
> >
> >
> >
> > I realize you are fairly new to the hobby but have very rapidly
> progressed to an expert level. Yours in not the typical experience.
> >
> >
> >
> > You talk about density and stiffness of motor sticks etc. The
> averag e beginner, the person we need to attract, doesn't yet
> understand these con cepts in a practical way  let alone need to
> be told not to worry about them as a beginner.
> >
> >
> >
> > They need to get a model in the air that can fly more than 5
> minutes and have some experts encourage him/her, not come right
> behind themn and triple their flight time.
> >
> >
> >
> > The scenario has happened over and over again. A beg inner event
> is introduced and within a year the designs are so perfected and
> the trimming so perfect that no beginner ever wins the event again.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the current events are fine. I would just like to see a
> beginner event tha t stays a beginner event.
> >
> >
> > Bill Carney
> > That Florida Indoor Guy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yuan Kang Lee" <ykleetx_at_...>
> > To: "Indoor Construction" <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> <http://us.mc1811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>>
>
> > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:43:27 PM
> > Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Beginner events and why
> they're hard for beginners
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The first thing I discovered when I started flying F1D is that a
> F1D is a lot easier to launch than the "beginner" models I fly. I
> have spent a lot of time on EZB, F1L, and Limited Pennyplane
> (LPP). Raise your hand if you have had your EZB or F1L dive on
> launch because the motor stick was too flexible? (Both mine are
> raised.)
> > In an ironic way, we have made our beginner models harder to fly
> than F1D. Of course, we know one reason -- a solid wood motor
> stick is easy to build but it generally does not work well under
> high torque and tension of the rubber motor.
> > Bracing a solid motor stick is relatively easy to do, whether
> using wood bracing or thread. Bracing substantially increases the
> performance of the motor stick. Not only will this help to make
> these beginner models launch better, allowing bracing means the
> quality of the solid motor stick does not have to be as good.
> Hobby shop balsa can be used. A lighter MS can be used, and the
> weight budget can be used elsewhere. These all greatly lower the
> barrier of entry for the beginner -- YET, these effects increases
> the performance of the model for the beginner. You don't usually
> find these "win-win" scenarios.
> > -Kang
> >
>
>
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