Re: Re: a bet (with apologies to The Moderator)

From: Jake Palmer <82.jake_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 16:43:18 -0700

I was being facetious with the elitist indoorist comment, but that was
apparently missed. I know at the contests I usually attend, only a few
guys fly seriously and the other 6 or 8 people are just there to have a
good time. I've never heard anyone complain that I take the hobby too
seriously or that I'm ruining it for other people.

Regarding outdoor and BOM rules, how many guys at the F1B world champs were
flying models they built themselves?

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Don DeLoach <ddeloach_at_comcast.net> wrote:

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> As a self-described indoor elitist why would your opinion matter? How many
> guys are there like you in the ****U.S.****? Thirty? Step back for a
> moment and ask yourself if you thirty extremists from about 25 states can
> sustain a hobby. Think hard about that. Meanwhile there are hundreds of
> casual indoor FFers who I suspect do not like what indoor has become. Who
> is right? I guess the marketplace will decide.****
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> You guys are like a boutique retailer specializing in only Gucci handbags
> at full price. But only canary yellow Gucci handbags. Your market space is
> too small and this is compounded by a dearth of customers. ****
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> How would a random sampling of NFFS guys have any clue or insight into
> indoor if they don't actually participate?****
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> Thats why we ask them if they participate or not, then correlate that to
> the responses. Market research 101.****
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> A lot of guys that fly outdoor have zero interest in indoor. Are they
> supposed to know why or if indoor is "ailing"?****
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> Right.****
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> And to that end I actively dislike what outdoor has become without a BOM
> rule. Does that mean I should speak on behalf of the outdoor guys even
> thought I don't fly outdoor?]****
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> You lost me. AMA Outdoor FF does have BOM rule.****
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> Elitist indoorist,****
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> Jake****
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> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Don DeLoach <ddeloach_at_comcast.net> wrote:*
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> I respectfully disagree Mike. The responses from this survey will be
> invaluable to the newly-formed NFFS Indoor Committee as they build an
> agenda for upcoming discussions.****
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> This thread starting to get silly and non-constructive, guys. Shouldn't
> you be sharing tips on building your next (F1D, insert your poison here) or
> securing the next great flying site?
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> Mike****
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Received on Mon Jul 02 2012 - 16:43:19 CEST