RE: Re: Condenser Paper

From: N. A. Monllor <nmonllor_at_tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 19:29:08 -0400

I've been following this thread for a while now and I've got to say, I'm
glad I don't have the need to compete.

When my hobby becomes a job, that's when I've got to bow out and find
another hobby.

 

Don't get me wrong, at some point if I should make or break a record,
neat!!!, but I'd rather just be trying to better my last flight with what's
available to me and be grateful that I'm flying at all.

 

"Those are the main points. The one point that Diddiler did not mention is
sites. There are plenty of good sites but Indoorists seem reticent to attend
meets unless there is a real chance to set records."

I cannot say anything about this statement, as I've not been involved that
long in indoor free flight, but I will say that, this coming weekend I'm
expecting a bunch of older kids at the hangar in Lakeland (middle and high
school) and in as much as they might like to compete someday, we're going to
have a bunch of fun days before that happens, learning and building.

Let's see what we can each do to make indoor more popular where we live.

 

All the best guys,

Ren

 

 

 

 

From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don DeLoach
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 6:15 PM
To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Condenser Paper

 

  

--Extreme materials and techniques are required to be competitive (absurdly
light and stiff wood)

--The best materials are not even made anymore (Y2K, May 99, light C-paper)

--Poorly written rules that are exploited by experts (VP prop on A-6, plenty
of other examples)

--A prevailing attitude that indoor is just fine and does not need to grow
or improve.

 

Those are the main points. The one point that Diddiler did not mention is
sites. There are plenty of good sites but Indoorists seem reticent to attend
meets unless there is a real chance to set records.

 

If you are truly interested in learning why indoor is so unpopular I would
suggest getting a focus group together of typical model airplane lovers or
even typical FFers. The responses would likely surprise you.

 

This is just my honest analysis. I wish none of this were true and indoor
was hugely popular.

 

Flame away.

 

  _____

From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don DeLoach
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 3:54 PM
To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Condenser Paper

 

  

Diddler just summed up most of what's wrong with Indoor and why 99.9999% of
the population will never become "indoorists".

 

DD

 

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From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark F1diddler
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 3:43 PM
To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Condenser Paper

 

  



--- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com> , "Yuan Kang Lee"
<ykleetx_at_...> wrote:
>
>
> It is substantially harder to meet minimum weight than LPP and F1L. Some
aspects of building A6 are easy, but three rules make meeting minimum
difficult: 1) 1/16" wood for wing spars, 2) 1/32" wood for prop, 3) paper
convering>>

Ya, many indoor classes have one or more relatively extreme aspects. One
famous ezb flyer doesn't do F1d due to how tightly we have to launch
(risking destruction of motorsticks here and there.) That's what's good, and
also bad about having so many indoor classes--you get to pick your poison.

I don't need to find 4.0 lb wood for anything else I build, so I'm not going
to start that hunt in order to make a long-winged 1.3" chord A6 out of
1/16th square sticks. And the really light c paper is not even available
last I heard. A6 functioned just FINE as a so-called club event, even with
competing sets of rules. AMA event induction was not really needed (was my
main comment to contest board member.) But I'm happy if it keeps a few
others happy and motivated. Hope y'all are enjoying it. I might try a
variable pitch A6, heheh.
MB
Received on Mon May 14 2012 - 16:29:10 CEST

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