Re: Solutions for Indoor FF

From: Benjamin Saks <bensaks_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:02:50 -0700

I will take it upon my shoulders to help set up, arrange, organize,
coordinate, etc. whatever it takes to make this happen. I was told that
there is a weekly indoor meet in the LA area (Burbank) and I would like to
find more information about that so I can talk to the folks who fly there.

Hack told me the best way to convince someone about letting you fly in their
space is to take a ministick into their office and fly it. When they see it
they will realize that the planes are harmless and also very cool.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Don DeLoach <ddeloach_at_comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Even though Indoor is a highly specialized form of model aviation, I
> think that what is not broken should not be fixed. Instead of criticizing
> the hobby in general, we should be looking for creative ways to engage new
> people with our hobby. We should be collaborating on ideas about how to
> market the hobby to younger people (outside of S.O.), working together to
> procure flying sites on a regional level and strive to build and maintain
> solid relationships with the owners/operators of these sites (An example is
> the strong ties to Lakehurst that Romash has built)
>
> It is clear to me that I need to make time for indoor once again, not only
> because I need it to fill a void in my life but also because I would be
> happy to help with the issues I just mentioned.
>
> Ben
>
> These are very valid inputs and while I disagree slightly I do agree with
> most of what you’ve said.
>
> I’ve often thought that we need more regional sites as well. In outdoor FF
> there are a bunch of good sites/meets within one day’s drive of my home in
> Colorado Springs. This is not true for indoor sites/meets.
>
> I really think we need a new major indoor meet/site in the Southwest. A few
> years ago I started kicking this idea around and it got little support. I
> even drove and checked out two Cat IV domes in Arizona. Only a handful of
> guys responded that they would be likely to attend a meet there. Too bad.
>
> Now I hear about the possibility of getting back into Santa Ana. Now THAT
> would be great! A two day (at least) meet there would draw a lot of folks I
> suspect.
>
> --Don
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Don DeLoach <ddeloach_at_comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Wow.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> [mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Don Slusarczyk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:18 PM
> To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Indoor_Construction] Solutions for Indoor FF
>
> >
> >
> >
>
> > Don, give me a break with the nitpicking. I did not know F1L was in
> > the AMA
> > rulebook. Of course I knew it was an FAI event.
> >
> > What does this have to do with my core message--that indoor FF has some
> > serious problems that need fixing?
> >
>
> It has to do with your posts and your continued negative
> characterizations of the indoor free flight community. Your perception
> of an indoor free flight modeler shows both arrogance and ignorance. For
> a person who claims to be a "progressive" thinker I find your general
> attitude to be continuously insulting and condescending. Perhaps when
> you can stop name calling the whole indoor community perhaps you will be
> taken seriously and perhaps get some respect back . Boasting about how
> great YOUR outdoor FF sport is and saying how archaic and out of touch
> the indoor FF guys are is getting old and I am tired of hearing that
> horse manure spread across the internet.
>
> Indoor is a highly specialized aspect of aero modeling that has always
> had a relatively low number of participants. Criticizing an indoor
> modeler for asking a person to walk slow or asking a parent to gain some
> control over their child in a public place at a model event is hardly a
> valid criticism. Have you spent days or weeks on a model only to have it
> destroyed by a careless spectator? Ask my dad how is Manhattan Cabin was
> destroyed by a spectator at USIC, or his EZB? A simple "Sorry" means
> nothing and does nothing when you spent months preparing your models to
> attend the USIC. If a person tells you to slow down then that means you
> were walking too fast. If you talk too loud in the library thy tell you
> to be quiet. It is a matter of respect and courtesy in the venue you are
> in. So until you stop characterizing the indoor community the way you
> do, you comments on what our "problems" are nothing more than spam.
>
> Don
>
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> BEN SAKS
> Project Designer
> bsaks_at_wetdesign.com
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BEN SAKS
Project Designer
bsaks_at_wetdesign.com
WET
10817 Sherman Way
Sun Valley, CA 91352
T 818.769.6200
F 818.301.6111
www.wetdesign.com
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