Re: Helium Costs way up

From: Dmytro Silin <dmytro.silin_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 10:14:00 -0400

Mark,
We were using H balloons back in Ukraine before 2000. Nothing blew up.
One guy even used to take them outside after competition and pop them with
a cigarette.

I think mylar H ballon would be safe enough - small and low pressure.
At 2018 WCh I talked to Ray Harlan about how to make them. Nothing
complicated. The only problem - metallized mylar with self-seal layer.
Tried several suppliers from China - min order was 100 kg roll.
Regards,
= Dima

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On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 4:47 PM mark bennett f1diddler_at_yahoo.com
[Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Jake. I did mean it, saying, "time for me to ditch the 100
> grammers." But was just thinking out loud regarding Kurt's question on the
> discrepancy between party balloon fill volume vs (more compressed) helium
> in steering balloon. I'm probably not going to make KD anyhow.
>
> Btw, has anyone experimented with hydrogen? I  know H2 has a bad rap,
> ("Oh...the humanity!")  But in India they've been using H2-filled balloons
> in festivals for decades.  Not without some mishaps, but indoorists dont
> smoke and get crazy like they do. So far. :^))
> MB
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> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:48:50 PM EDT, Jake Palmer 82.jake_at_gmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Mark,
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> You'll definitely need a smaller 36" balloon at Kibbie.  I can give you
> one of my spares if you don't have one.  I only have 1 full tank and about
> 1/3 of another tank.  That combined with higher than usual attendance
> (close to 30 people) means the helium supply will be limited this year.  I
> can't allow people to fill oversize or extremely leaky balloons because we
> just don't have the helium to spare.
>
> Jake
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> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:31 AM mark bennett f1diddler_at_yahoo.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Edit.  It's got to be way more than double the helium for the 100
> grammers, since Im comparing to 30 grammers, i think.
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> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 1:26:22 PM CDT, mark bennett
> f1diddler_at_yahoo.com [Indoor_Construction] <
> Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> The latex balloons used for steering can compress helium way more (per
> water volume) than a mylar wall party balloon.  For that matter, those 100g
> Scientific Sales balloons i have used  (nominally also called 36", I think)
> will take (it seems) double or more the helium moles compared with the
> popular lighter latex balloons,  espcially those final 2 or 3 three inches
> of diameter to get a manly pull.  Time for me to ditch the 100 gram style.
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> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 8:54:33 AM CDT, Kurt Krempetz
> krempetz_at_yahoo.com [Indoor_Construction] <
> Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hi Tom,
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> Wow, that would not of been my guess, your numbers show the size
> difference is 31.8 so that .84 cents for the helium to fill a dollar store
> balloon.  I am sure the mylar balloon is very inexpensive, so it appears
> the dollar store isn't losing money, like I originally thought. Thanks for
> the data on the volume of each balloon.
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> Cheers,
> Kurt
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> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 8:25:57 AM CDT, Tom Sova tjssyl_at_gmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Kurt,
>             An 18” foil balloon holds .44 cf of helium vs 14 cf for a 36”
> latex steering balloon.
>
> Tom
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> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:11 AM Kurt Krempetz krempetz_at_yahoo..com
> <krempetz_at_yahoo.com> [Indoor_Construction] <
> Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>      The Dollar Tree in my area is selling mylar balloons which float for
> a buck, there not as big as a 36" balloon but not 27 times smaller, so  how
> are they able to do this at the cost of helium these days?
>
> Cheers,
> Kurt
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> On Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 10:46:29 PM CDT, Tom Sova tjssyl_at_gmail.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> So at approximately 14 cubic feet per 36 inch latex balloon. Six balloons
> per tank.  That’s $27 per balloon if anyone wants a balloon filled.
>
> Tom
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> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 11:35 PM Don Slusarczyk don_at_slusarczyk.com
> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Just throwing some info out for all. I had my two 80 cubic foot tanks
> refilled after the Kent contest (actually its a bottle swap not a
> "refill"). It was $167 a bottle and took 2 weeks to get.  They had to be
> ordered but at least I was able to get some. I recall the $32 refills
> when I first got the tank, then was about $50-$60 for many year until
> the recent helium shortage and then went up to $115 (about 2 years ago)
> and now $167. Hydrogen filled steering balloons anyone? :-)
>
> --
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