Re: Re: P-18 plans and Specs

From: Don DeLoach <ddeloach_at_comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 15:52:41 -0600

Good points Bill. All sound justifications for voting YES and moving the P-18 proposal to the cross proposal phase.


DD


> On Apr 1, 2016, at 3:46 PM, 'William D. Gowen' wdgowen_at_gmail.com [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Here's a radical idea for the next rules cycle:
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> If you were to make the CURRENT Wright stuff rules into an AMA event you could potentially tap into THOUSANDS of kids who already have a model to fly - some of them on a very advanced level. Then if the event were made an official event instead of a provisional event they could go to USIC and compete for a National Championship trophy.
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> The AMA rule could be written so that the current SO rules would automatically be the AMA rules as soon as they are published. This is already done with FAI events so it seems like there is a clear precedent for allowing this. In the years that there is no Wright Stuff event the AMA could keep the last official set of rules until they change.
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> Re: the P-18 proposal
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> For the people who think the beginner event rules should encourage more advanced techniques the SO rules allow any type of propeller construction as long as the size limit is observed. So when a kid (or older person) wants to move into something more complicated than an unmodified plastic propeller the opportunity is there without having to tackle a new event.
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> I think a good cross proposal for the P-18 event would be to allow any type of prop that meets the size limit that is decided on. I would personally prefer to see an efficient prop that is readily available. The Ikara props meet the bill. They don't need the hours of scraping that used to be required for heavier types of plastic props. As for size a 9" prop would be much more suitable for an 18" span model than a 5.5" prop.
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> And one last thing about the P-18 rules - a rubber weight limit would take away the need for using motors that are several times the 10" hook to hook specification. The Wright Stuff models fly very well on limited rubber. If you allow unlimited rubber then you are going to see people who learn to use sleeves blow everyone else out of the water and I'm sure no one wants that to happen.
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>> On 4/1/2016 4:47 PM, ykleetx_at_gmail.com [Indoor_Construction] wrote:
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>> The LPP balsa prop can be intimidating to a BEGINNER.
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>> However, the LPP balsa prop should not be difficult for an intermediate outdoor freeflight modeler. Outdoor balsa props are much harder to make than LPP balsa props.
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>> From this standpoint, I don't consider P-18 as a gateway event from outdoor to indoor. It's a beginner indoor event.
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>> Another point: Instead of making P-18 an official AMA event, I much prefer a well establish and well experimented Wright Stuff model -- like the 2010 Wright Stuff. There is so much more history and experience with a Wright Stuff model, and it makes much more sense to adopt it instead of something new.
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>> -Kang
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