Sometimes direct and to-the-point language is required to get people to think outside of their comfort zones. Unfortunately, there are those who don’t recognize the intent of the comments and are too offended to consider the possible value. That’s a shame. This forum should be a place for the exchange of ALL ideas, including criticisms, even those that attempt to challenge our status quo perceptions.
Chuck Etherington
From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:28 AM
To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Indoor_Construction] Re: [freeflightml] 10th Pikes Peak Ceiling Climb
DD,
Congratulations! You never fail to disappoint.
Gary
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From: Don DeLoach ddeloach_at_comcast.net<mailto:ddeloach_at_comcast.net> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>>
To: Indoor_Construction <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Indoor_Construction] Re: [freeflightml] 10th Pikes Peak Ceiling Climb
That's an interesting response Bill. It says a lot about the current state of Indoor. Thanks for the insight.
DD
On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:17 PM, William Gowen wdgowen_at_gmail.com<mailto:wdgowen_at_gmail.com> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
I'm sure it's fruitless to make any sense out of your A6 comments. If you want to fly A6 with short motors and no sleeves and continue to lose then more power to you!
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Don DeLoach ddeloach_at_comcast.net<mailto:ddeloach_at_comcast.net> [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
Good question Manuel. I think the rules pretty tight, with the exception
of the hook-to-hook length. A length of 10" was proposed to AMA so that
the models could also double as LPPs...but the older P-18 plans and kits
(McGrath's from the 2015 Nats) still have this length around 12". This
will have to be resolved as there are lots of models in circulation with
the length over 10". At the PPCC most were still using the longer length.
Experts are going to exploit this event the same way they exploit
A-6--by using the longest possible loops of 5/99 and 3/02 Tan II, and by
using anti-bunching sleeves on the front and rear hooks. Yawn.
Probably the only way to keep it a novice event is to prohibit experts
from flying it. A rubber weight maximum would eliminate the sleeves but
it would just place a premium on 5/99 and winding techniques.
My unvarnished opinion.
DD
On 3/14/2016 1:32 PM, Manuel Cisneros manuel.cisneros_at_oracle.com<mailto:manuel.cisneros_at_oracle.com>
[freeflightml] wrote:
> Don, so was there any insight from the P-18 inaugural event? I know
> it's probably too early to tell but did any themes show up in the models
> or the way they flew/were flown? Any thoughts on how this event might
> move forward as a beginner's event and how to try to keep it as a
> beginner's event?
>
> Manuel.
>
> On 3/12/2016 1:59 PM, Don DeLoach ddeloach_at_comcast.net<mailto:ddeloach_at_comcast.net> [freeflightml] wrote:
> >
> > The most popular events were P-18 with 8 flyers, Limited Pennyplane with
> > 7, and Towline and No-cal with 6 each. Isn't it interesting how quickly
> > P-18 has caught on?
> >
> > Jace Pivonka topped the very competitive 8-man field in P-18 with an
> > awesome 2:10. His backup flight of 2:09 would also have placed first.
> >
>
>
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