I'm not sure what you're asking Gary.
Restaurants have cooks, kitchen staff and dishwashers, none of whom interact with customers. You think they might be a reason for that?
DD
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Warthodson_at_aol.com [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Really? Got any one in mind?
> GH
> No offense but most Indoor flyers are not the right personality
> type.
>
> DD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don DeLoach ddeloach_at_comcast.net [Indoor_Construction] <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>
> To: Indoor_Construction <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 1:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [Indoor_Construction] Idea for a New Event
>
>
> Have you actually executed a bottom-up plan to find flying sites, then
> contacted the decision makers at those sites to inquire about
> use/rental? If not, then you cannot conclude there are no flying sites.
>
> I have considerable experience with this and can help anyone who has the
> will to learn.
>
> You also need to be putting the right people on your site search
> program. No offense but most Indoor flyers are not the right personality
> type.
>
> DD
>
> On 2/15/2016 7:15 AM, Chris pseshooter3d_at_yahoo.com [Indoor_Construction]
> wrote:
> > During a local flying session, the topic of beginner fliers came up, and
> > beginner models, and what not. We sought feedback from one of our Jr.
> > fliers as this is his second year flying indoor and he is still working
> > his way out of the novice range.
> >
> > What I learned from him is that indoor models, at first glance, appear
> > intimidating. He told me that he was really glad he had a mentor to
> > work with him on building and flying skills. He also said that it is
> > difficult to stay motivated when he is not flying a lot.
> >
> > During another conversation for the evening I had asked a fellow modeler
> > why we don't fly at Akron and other local sites anymore. The response
> > was rather profound, and could explain quite a lot about participation
> > in indoor. Basically, I was told that many of these sites are no longer
> > accessible because the contact person has passed or is otherwise
> > unavailable.
> >
> > So I thought about all of this, and a pattern seems pretty clear to me.
> > I have no doubt we have plenty of would be mentors within the indoor
> > community. What we lack is access to flying sites to keep people
> > interested. Outdoor fliers can find parks, fields, backyards, etc that
> > are suitable for their purpose fairly easily. Indoor fliers have much
> > less access to flying sites. If you aren't flying much, it aren't able
> > to fly much then you are less likely to be fly a lot. Also, if one does
> > not have access to a site and does not fly a lot, then It is unlikely
> > they will compete, as they know they won't be competitive (remember, I
> > am talking about beginners here. I am sure some of you have enough
> > experience to not fly for a year, show up to USIC and be competitive,
> > but that is not the typical beginner). Now, the argument could be made
> > that competitive or not, fliers should attend contests so they learn
> > more and become more competitive. The logistics of a major contest
> > though, are a tough sell for someone who is just starting out. How do
> > you convince a kid to give up a weekend of doing what kids do to fly
> > with people they barely know, and get their butts kicked in the process?
> > I think the old "that's the cost of an education" while totally true,
> > again is a tough sell.
> >
> > So maybe we are barking up the wrong tree. Perhaps it is not the events
> > that are discouraging beginners, but rather the lack of
> > Flying sites.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Don DeLoach ddeloach_at_comcast.net
> > <mailto:ddeloach_at_comcast.net>; [Indoor_Construction]
> > <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>>; wrote:
> >
> >> That's really interesting,Evan.
> >>
> >> DD
> >>
> >> On Feb 14, 2016, at 5:19 PM, guyettevan_at_yahoo.com
> >> <mailto:guyettevan_at_yahoo.com>; [Indoor_Construction]
> >> <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> >> <mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>>; wrote:
> >>
> >>> Seems there's a lot of talk about new events to bring in
> >>> participants. No matter what wing dimensions, weight restrictions, or
> >>> other factors you use, the goal is the same. How about an event which
> >>> involves flying the most efficient model, but not necessarily for the
> >>> best time. Here is what I came up with:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dimension Rules:
> >>>
> >>> -Max Wing area of 50 sq inches
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Scoring
> >>>
> >>> -Wing loading will need to be calculated. To calculate wing loading,
> >>> weigh the entire airplane (rubber included) after each official
> >>> flight and divide the mass in grams by 50 sq inches.
> >>>
> >>> -To find the score, multiply the wing loading by the time in seconds
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Example:
> >>>
> >>> 5 gram airplane, 2.13 gram motor, flew for 6 minutes.
> >>>
> >>> 7.13g / 50 sq in = .1426
> >>>
> >>> .1426 x (9 x 60) = 51.3
> >>>
> >>> Score: 51.3
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What do you guys think? It would definitely be something fresh and
> >>> new in my opinion.
> >>>
> >
>
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