RE: Re: USIC schedule

From: John Koptonak <gliderguider_at_comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:13:51 -0500

I believe the town of Glastonbury here in Connecticut has a contractor firm
that provides all the programming services for town facilities. The college
may need to provide the re-programming information to the "controllers"
ahead of time. It's definitely not something I can do with a day's notice
for our gym. Maybe the college is different but I'm only giving a heads up
incase there is red tape that needs to be worked through.

 

Someone should at least have a good understanding of how the heating/air
conditioning system works.

 

 We've had indoor sessions ruined because the town forgot to let the
programmers know our time period that we were flying and the heater blowers
were running full tilt. When it's done properly, the blowers come on right
on the minute our session is officially over!

 

John Koptonak

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [Indoor_Construction] Re: USIC schedule

 

  

If the HVAC system is monitored &/or controlled by a computer system, as
most are now days, and the disconnect Sw. is opened (thrown) an alarm will
probably be indicated at the monitoring center. That could cause some
"political" problems. Often there is a "Hand/Off/Auto" switch located on the
fan starter in addition to the disconnect switch. Placing it in "off" might
be better that opening the disconnect switch, however, if the system is
monitored the alarm will still be triggered. The key in this situation is to
find a knowledgeable cooperative person in the maintenance or facilities
department who understands the HVAC system controls & is willing to manually
over ride the fan operation or even to temporarily change the fan operating
program to stop & start at specific times.

Gary Hodson

-----Original Message-----
From: William Gowen <wdgowen_at_gmail.com>
To: Indoor_Construction <Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 5, 2013 9:13 am
Subject: RE: [Indoor_Construction] Re: USIC schedule

  

Yes - there has to be a disconnect switch on the unit for when it requires
service or for an emergency. For a fan it doesn't seem there would be a
political problem in just throwing the switch.

On Jan 5, 2013 8:39 AM, "John Koptonak" <gliderguider_at_comcast.net> wrote:

  

The blowers in the Glastonbury High School gym in Connecticut are remotely
programmed at a location in Atlanta, GA. I'm always reminding the town to
make sure they have re-programmed the operating times for our meets so that
everything is turned off. Any chance that the Urbana armory does the same
thing? There has to be a way to control the fans. They would have to at
least be turned off during a fire. You might have to find the right person
to talk to.

 

BTW, I see Tower Hobbies is hosting an indoor R/C event at the armory on
February 9th and 10th. Might be an opportunity to at least check out the
site.

 

John Koptonak

 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:56 PM
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Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: USIC schedule

 

  

Now to poke a stick at the bag. The Urbana armory is a tight place to fly.
The high point is right at the center (north-south) and the flight space is
all on an east-west line. There were fans on in both the east and west
mezzanine areas this past October (the site manager claimed that they could
not be turned off). This meant that any plane that drifted toward either
mezzanine was quickly sucked into the machinery area (both sideways and
downward!). The center area of the armory will be the prime flying space.

The proposed schedule has over 14 hours of flying time for the very slow
fliers on Wednesday and another nine plus hours on Thursday. This is a great
deal of time. I suspect, though, that the best flights will be put up toward
the end of the day. Thus, the early times in the day will be much less used.
(As an aside, we will get a good experience with tight flying in July when
15 or more F1D's fight for the equally tight prime area at the Kibbie Dome
late in the rounds.)

Third, the argument for F1R (formerly 35cm) that two flights are needed also
applies to F1L which, this year, will fly with the A6's, ornithopters, and
helicopters. And, by the way, an F1L is a legal EZB as well as a legal F1D
when flown with a 0.6g motor.

So, perhaps Wednesday's (and Thursday's) schedule can be split perhaps
reserving the last few hours exclusively for F1D's. Also, there probably
would be no problem with having HLS's fly both days, other than the reserved
F1D time.

John has done a great job finding a site (kudo's to Mike, too) and tweaking
the schedule for better flying slots both for public exposure and providing
for more participation. My comments just reflect my (limited) experience at
the site. Finally, I hope no one complains when someone flies an F1D that is
sized like an F1L on Wednesday and Thursday.

Leo, and, yes, I fly F1D.

--- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com> , "Yuan Kang Lee" wrote:
>
> I think having 35 cm and Int Stick on both days provides much relief to
those who otherwise would have 4 events on Wednesday. Plus, it's one more
day of fun for those enthusiastic about 35 cm and Int Stick.
>
> I'm going to build a 35 cm for this year and try to recruit other fliers.
>
> --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com> , "John Kagan" wrote:
> >
> > I'll list 35cm, Int. Stick, and F1D for Wed and Thurs.
> >
> > Any other tune-up suggestions?
> >
> > I have to send the schedule into the AMA in a day or so, so speak now
or...complain later, but to no avail :)
> >
>
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