Re: Re: Treger and Schramm

From: Jake Palmer <82.jake_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:02:08 -0700

I'm not saying thermals aren't contributing, but Treger had 4 flights over
37 minutes. That kind of consistency leads me to believe that 37 is a
baseline for his model in Belgrade and not an anomaly. The 39 minute
flights by Treger in 2010 and Schramm this year are definitely outliers
that were helped by the air. Everyone other than Schramm and Treger seem
to have a baseline of 35 or less.

As far as elliptical wings are concerned, I'm not personally convinced.
 Treger is doing quite well with a wing similar to everyone else.
 Considering how much extra work is involved to build one I plan to stick
with a more traditional wing. That said, they are quite beautiful.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Mark F1diddler <f1diddler_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

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> --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, Jake Palmer <82.jake_at_...>
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> <<After this year's champs it seems that thermals have been pretty well
> eliminated as the primary candidate.>>
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> Thermals/great air don't appear eliminated to me if one's good, base
> flights are around 35-36 but with an occasional 37, and then one 39
> (considering past frew WCs.) Of course, the question remains how to become
> somewhat "regular" with 35-36 min flights.
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> Doubt if the big answer will be to abandon one's wing shape to "go
> elliptical," but I'm sure some will try, and report enthusiastically. Good
> results in competition mostly prove that a given non-traditional design
> feature _doesn't hurt_. Then maybe some day that feature becomes
> "traditional". Then 10 years later, someone rediscovers that the original,
> passe' feature doesn't hurt either, but is easier to build.
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> > >What are Treger and Schramm doing that makes their models perform so
> well in Belgrade?>>
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> Let's hope the US team has some insights there. Anyhow, I'll bet the
> winners could have traded models with each other and probably done equally
> well. My question is, could they have taken a 33 minute model from anyone
> else, and bumped it up to 36? I've often wished to do similar (trade
> models) with other modelers at contests just to begin to isolate the
> question of flyer quality vs. model quality. But there's never time, and
> maybe not another willing competitor. And if I accidentally broke my
> friend's models, I would then feel bad if he didn't break mine. Possibly no
> fun there.
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