To all...
As someone who does this for the MMM Club, I think that what is needed is
someone to step up to the plate...be the responsible party and take it
over.
In my "travels" I have figured out that the reason everyone wants to be a
part of, but not he responsible party, is they don't know what they are
getting into nor what is involved. Truth is, it's not that hard and there is a
lot of satisfaction.
If I read the emails correctly, all of the pieces are in place, one just
needs to step up and have the proper publishing software and profiency..
I.E. Microsoft Word (or equal) and probably Adobe Acrobat to cut a pdf file.
The hard part is getting good input and data to use. I used to get cuts
from folks that would say..."This would make a great article!"...expecting
me to dig stuff out of the woodwork. If it was such a great article,
provide some backup data and such. The job is "EDITOR" not reporter. Too many
folks expect you do to the work in creating articles without adding proper
input. Guess what..it never happens.
Long story short...you want to be the editor and compiler of the INAV and
not the originator. You do get a lot of input from all of the email
traffic if one cares to edit and compile it. It is very current, the info on
this site. think about it...building tips, sources of material..name it.
And if anybody "b**ches" about it, tell them to step up to the plate.
It's easy to be a critic, especially if you never have to step up or be right.
And yes...it does take time...and you are a volunteer.
Rick
Rick Pangell
Editor of "The Max-Out" Newsletter of
The Magnificent Mountain Men FF Club of Colorado
In a message dated 7/26/2012 11:51:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
flyingbluegill_at_sbcglobal.net writes:
Guys
The cost of keeping a website is very trivial, the main effort is
constructing and maintaining it. Ideally someone in our ranks would do it,
hopefully for free
The cost of registering a domain name is only around $10 per year, and
server space is cheap too, even if you go out and rent your own space,
something like $50 a year
I have lots of unused server space on the server I rent. I have 750 GB of
space that I rent for $48 a year. I run about a dozen model airplane
related sites for clubs, cottage industries, etc., some of which are heavily in
terms of pictures and I am only using less than 5% of the space I rent.
I guess what I am saying is I would be willing to carve out a wedge of my
server and make it available for free to whomever might be willing to do
the website.
The message here in my email is the development and maintaining of the
website itself is not trivial, none if is hard, just time consuming.
Here are some websites I currently run and are part of that 5% mentioned
above. All of them feature loads of high resolution pictures:
_
http://www.cbmodeldesigns.com/_ (
http://www.cbmodeldesigns.com/)
_
http://www.rockytopmodels.com/_ (
http://www.rockytopmodels.com/)
_
http://www.daytonsoaring.org/_ (
http://www.daytonsoaring.org/)
_
http://www.midohiosoaring.com/_ (
http://www.midohiosoaring.com/)
_
http://www.lots-in-life.com/bonanza-pics/_
(
http://www.lots-in-life.com/bonanza-pics/)
_
http://www.faipower.com/_ (
http://www.faipower.com/)
_
http://www.picturejoe.com/tom-hutchison-picture-gallery/_
(
http://www.picturejoe.com/tom-hutchison-picture-gallery/)
_
http://www.picturejoe.com/2004-cl-wc-picture-gallery/_
(
http://www.picturejoe.com/2004-cl-wc-picture-gallery/)
_
http://www.lots-in-life.com/garden-2011/_
(
http://www.lots-in-life.com/garden-2011/)
_
http://www.lots-in-life.com/basic-aerodynamics/_
(
http://www.lots-in-life.com/basic-aerodynamics/) (my personal favorite)
Like has been said earlier, my recommendation is to keep things digital on
a website, and keep them free (the costs of the website are simply not
worth charging fees for)
In my opinion, the benefits to the hobby are worth far more than charging
money to try and offset any of the fees I mentioned above
Joe Mekina
Ohio
____________________________________
From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:27 PM
To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: INAV
Ah -
Nick - the domain name is paid up through 2016. The INAV website, while
currently down, is still somewhere on Jeff's servers and can probably be
recovered so it will not need to be started from scratch - but that has to be
confirmed with Jeff. As for the old issues, until the site went down, they
were all made freely available (well - the 20 some issues that we posted),
and I would suggest it be kept free so more people can access that info.
--- In _Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com) , Nick Ray <lasray_at_...> wrote:
>
> I would be willing to help with keeping INAV going, but I need some help
in
> a key few areas.
>
> I know very little about designing web pages and so I would need help
> getting the site set up. Also, I am not currently a position where I can
> support the news letter if becomes a financial liability.
>
> Here is what I propose:
>
> I would like to go to a completely digital INAV. I know this will cause
> some problems for a few of the subscribers but I am not willing to commit
> to printing and mailing hundreds of news letters. That seems to be the
most
> time consuming part of the current process. If we go to a completely
> digital platform then I don't really see the need to password protect the
> content of the news letter, because we would not have to charge everyone
to
> pay for mailings. We could password protect the old issues if that would
> make everyone if that is an issue. I foresee creating a home page with
> links to PDFs of issues organized by year. The site user would simply
> follow the link and download the PDF to view the content. The user can
> print the issue if they want. Thus, the only operating cost for INAV
would
> be creating and hosting the website.
>
> I have two ideas about how to cover the operating cost:
>
> We used the existing money to pay for server space and maintaining the
> domain registration. $1000 dollars should cover these cost for several
> years.
>
> Otherwise, we can have a donate to INAV link on the page through paypal.
> The donations would be used to cover the cost of maintaining domain name
> registration server space and server space.
>
> As for the content itself:
>
> The only real change would be that INAV would accept both digital and
paper
> submissions again. I would like to have maybe 4 or 5 volunteers to help
> review submitted content. This way no one person is responsible for
editing
> more than 10 pages or so over per quarter. I think that's pretty
manageable
> work load.
>
> Then, I would take the content and put it together in a PDF file and
upload
> it to the web page. I think this process could be kept up with very
little
> effort from any one person after the initial site is set up.
>
> I know this isn't construction related, so I apologize for being off
topic.
> I just thought this is a discussion for the whole community. Now fire
away
> with suggestions and whatever else!
>
> Nick
>
> p.s. I'm building two new VPs for Belgrade
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Jake Palmer <82.jake_at_...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Abram mentioned that he does have money left in the INAV account. He
> > was offering to give it back to people with time left on their
> > subscriptions or donate it to the NFFS indoor fund. I personally would
> > rather see the money go towards something like what you're proposing
here.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Anthony <jimmy_otool_at_...> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> I haven't read the latest issue of INAV yet, but I am very sorry to
hear
> >> this.
> >>
> >> As a past editor of INAV (you might know me as the guy lovingly
referred
> >> to by Van as "that damn lawyer"), I think it would be a shame to see
the
> >> publication shuttered after 40 years.
> >>
> >> So, I'd like to offer a suggestion. When Jeff Hood and I were running
the
> >> newsletter, we (mostly Jeff) built a new website for INAV, to which
> >> password access allowed subscribers access to the latest issues. I
secured
> >> the web address Indoornewsandviews.com which was donated to the
> >> publication.
> >>
> >> If a few folks were interested, it would not be difficult to keep the
> >> publication going on line - add how to videos, a few articles etc.,
and use
> >> the site as the new publication form. The site could be kept free (if
Jeff
> >> continues to host on his server). If not, there should be cash in the
INAV
> >> account still - we handed over about $3K when the newsletter was
> >> transferred.
> >>
> >> If people want to see INAV survive, it will have to be a community
> >> effort.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> PS - Just to make sure I'm not misleading anyone, I am not
volunteering
> >> here. I've put in my time.
> >>
> >> --- In _Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com) , Jake Palmer <82.jake_at_>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I just read the latest issue of INAV and I'm very disappointed to
read
> >> that
> >> > it's being discontinued later this year. This combined with the
very low
> >> > attendance at the Kibbie Dome make me concerned for the future.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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