Re: Per the '10-'11 AMA rules for LPP

From: Yuan Kang Lee <ykleetx_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:50:51 -0000

I'm a big fan of Tim Goldstein's A2Z Tru-Weight wood. I have built many F1Ls and EZBs using this wood. I look for "unreal stiff" grade, and I am 100% satisfied. You have to pay a premium -- $10 to $12 for an 1.25 x 18" sheet -- but you get what you pay for.

I have also bought some IMS wood from A2Z. It's cheaper but not as stiff as the "unreal stiff" Tru-Weight wood. I probably have bought about 5 sheets but don't use them for my EZB or F1L. I used one 1/32 C grain for LPP, and it's fine for that.

A2Z sells EZB motor stick wood between 3.0 and 4.0# for $5.00 a sheet (1.25 x 12"). It is well worth the money. Some of it is too heavy and some of it is too weak, but some of it is excellent. I have built all of my light EZBs from this wood.

I have bought all of my F1L and EZB propeller wood from Jeff Hood. They are top quality, and I am 100% satisfied also.

I used to go to the hobby shop and weigh the wood. This is before I found A2Z and Jeff Hood. I did not find any light sheets but found a light 1/2 x 1/4 x 36" at about 4.3#. All of my F1L motor sticks have been built from this wood. It's not stiff enough for super high torque launches at .4 in-oz and above but okay for .3 in-oz and below. Plenty fine for USIC. Almost good enough for Tustin and Lakehurst.

I have bought wood from Lone Star. Although it is fairly cheap, I have not used a single piece for my models. I ordered their light stuff (which is 4.99# and under), and the 15 sheets I received are not stiff enough for my building. I have a lot of wood from Lone Star and have used the wood for jigs and tools.

-Kang

--- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, "Bill Gowen" <wdgowen@...> wrote:
>
> Katie
> The IMS wood that is sold by A2Z is a pretty good deal compared to the Tru-Weight wood. The grading is pretty iffy but even though I've gotten wood that wasn't what I expected it has always been great quality and eventually useful. Jeff Hood and Nick Aikman have excellent wood but I don't know what their status is at present.
>
> I think using hobby shop wood requires access to a lot of hobby shops and a lot of time sorting thru wood.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jabiruchick
> To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:27 PM
> Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Per the '10-'11 AMA rules for LPP
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> Just thought I'd share with you guys that after laughing at this great thread, I looked at the attachments for Carl Bakay's (Mike Palrang's) motor stick tester. Found Winning Indoor Designs posted right next to it on the Attachments page and promptly downloaded and read most of it. Read Mike Palrang's EZB#12 article, where he says anyone wanting to build a good model should read everything they can find by Larry Coslick on EZBs. From there I found Larry's HobbyShopper article on IndoorDuration.com, read it, printed it, and am now going through it a little each night, like an online course. Man that's just like "Hey Kid, Wanna Build a Model Airplane" from so long ago on chopping Sleek Streaks. I've been building models for 25 years and never knew most of the techniques presented there! That's some good stuff!
>
> After using some of my new skills for calculating balsa density, I discovered with much dismay that my stash of beautiful clear-grained, straight 1/32 sheet that I thought was light "enough" is actually 10 lb stock! Off i went to the hobby shop, where I found they didn't even have 32nd sheet. The dude working there tried his best to find it, even though he told me they probably don't make any sheet thinner than 1/16 because it's so fragile... Then, not wanting to give up, he found me some 1/32 ply and said it would be better because it's a lot stronger. Gotta give him credit for trying, but I hope the look on my face didn't offend him. Oh well, I guess it's not every day there's a damsel in distress in the balsa aisle. My next step is to visit A2Z and get some good indoor wood. I was sad about the lack of stock and knowledge at HobbyTown. But, they did have Ambroid, go figure. I'm pretty sure my HobbyShopper EZB will be renamed "The InterNetter."
>
> Anyway- I'm very thankful for Carl's WID, Larry Coslick's articles, and this forum. You guys make all of this duration stuff a little less intimidating for us "newbs," especially nowadays where it's tough to find good local help.
>
> Katie
>
> --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, themaxout@ wrote:
> >
> > my typing skills...but the A6 is built like a mule and I just got carried
> > away.
> >
> > Rick Pangell
> > Editor of "The Max-Out" Newsletter of
> > The Magnificent Mountain Men FF Club of Colorado
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/6/2011 9:50:28 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> > ken_at_ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > how did the mule get in this discussion?
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_themaxout_at__
> > (mailto:themaxout_at_) > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wait a minute...I just graduated to A6...mini next ass soon as I can get
> > a grip on A6...
> >
> > Rick Pangell
> > Editor of "The Max-Out" Newsletter of
> > The Magnificent Mountain Men FF Club of Colorado
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/6/2011 9:27:42 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> > _wdgowen_at__ (mailto:wdgowen@) writes:
> >
> >
> > I will defend ministick as the perfect class for other people to fly.
> >
> > My F1M turns just fine in our church gym flying site - at least after the
> > first circle.
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> >
> > John Kagan <_john_kagan_at__ (mailto:john_kagan@) >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >--- In _Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com) , Tapio Linkosalo <tapio.linkosalo@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ...I can barely make my F1D turn in that gym (but needs constant
> > steering), so a F1M turns tighter than a F1D. At least for me.
> > >>
> > >
> > >This thread has me laughing.
> > >
> > >Kang dissed LPP by saying that it needs to be more like F1M
> > >
> > >DeLoach defended LPP as nearly perfect and dissed F1M by saying it was
> > hard to pack, transport, and fly in small sites
> > >
> > >Tapio defended F1M as easy to pack and fly in small sites and dissed F1D
> > by saying it was hard to make turn
> > >
> > >I shall continue the theme and say that I can make my F1D turn in small
> > halls, and F1D's launches much better than Ministicks, which want to just
> > nose up and helicopter around
> > >
> > >Who's next? (you have to defend Ministick and diss something else)
> > >
> > >
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