I found this picture this morning while going through an old INAV issue
http://picasaweb.google.com/ykleetx/Indoor#5527959254034701522
Look at the flyers marveling at Jim Richmond's VD prop. Look at the proud dad :-)
Indoor is amazing and cool, but it is also dying. It's worth fighting hard to keep alive and well.
--- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, Nick Ray <lasray@...> wrote:
>
> Every time this topic comes up it bothers me a little more. I came indoor as
> a kid and I have continued to fly all the way through college. The more I
> fly the less I care about competitive indoor. For most kids the goal of
> getting into a top tier college affords all the competition they they need.
> I certainly don't think that competition is unimportant, but after competing
> in SO. TSA, AMA and FAI events there are only a handful of contest that
> actually remember how I, or anyone else placed. What I do remember is that I
> had a lot of fun along the way.
>
> As Kagan said indoor is intrinsically cool. I have had everyone from fine
> art collectors to scientist and engineers express interest in my models. The
> problem that we face is time it takes to become a proficient indoor flier. I
> don't see this as a bad thing. Whether is playing and instrument or learning
> snow ski, It takes time, money and commitment to get good at it. I think
> that indoor as a whole will sustain itself as long as people long as people
> keep going to contest / flying events and maintaining the open door policy
> that the community has traditionally had at these events.
>
> What I think needs to stop happening is: All of us (and I'm guilty of this
> as well) saying I'll make the next contest or I'll volunteer teach a group
> of kids or work a contest next time. There will always be other things we
> could be doing with our time but, if indoor is important enough of us to
> have these indoor is dying conversations then indoor is worth donating the
> time it took to type the email to a contest or a kid.
>
> Lastly, I think we should place the burden of starting indoor promoting
> actives on people who don't currently fly. Guidance councilors have there
> hands full with children whose parents are meeting their children's basic
> needs. Teachers, especially public school teachers make all of 1000 dollars
> a year before taxes for staying after two work with students after they have
> already put in 8+ hours for the day. I know that personally, once quitting
> time comes around the last thing I want to do is to stay at work anther 2-3
> hours for free. While it would appear that this is a negative situation its
> actually a positive situation for indoor mentors. Indoorist are able to say
> to the schools, we'll come in and run an after school program at no cost to
> the school if you'll give us a gym to fly in and a room to meet. As members
> of the Oakland cloud dusters have found, this a profitable situation for all
> involved.
>
> So please, put the time that you would be spending talking about why indoor
> is dying into doing something to save it.
>
> Nick
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Thomas <parkreation_at_...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Mark,
> > Agreed. The issue of #3 just morph's if #1 and #2 are achieved. When this
> > sport achieves higher ranking importance in a student's life, their "time &
> > energy" will increase to maintain their own #1 & #2.
> >
> > Incidently, as much as our society has attempted to water down brains,
> > skills and competition, at no time in one's life are these more important
> > than between the ages 11 and 21. Sparring for position is a given. So is
> > getting attention. Yes, I speak from my experience as a parent of 4
> > competitive kids, Science Olympiad, Ex-TSA official, Scouts and being on
> > School Board, I have witnessed this scenario many times over.
> >
> > Stepping Off,
> > Tom Sanders
> >
> >
> > --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Mark F1diddler" <f1diddler_at_> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com<Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Thomas" <parkreation_at_> wrote:
> > > d
> > > > 1) Youth involvement is directly proportional to "bragging rights" (ie:
> > does my involvement raise my status with my peers, my girl/guy friend?)
> > > >
> > > > 2) Is this activity something that will get me into a good college, is
> > there any money to earn?
> > > >
> > > > 3) How much time does my involvement consume? I have lot's of homework,
> > band, sports, Science Olympiad, Choir, etc. etc.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom, I think this "adolescent psychological" approach is wiser than our
> > intuitive surmising, even in the order of importance above. #1 and 2 seem
> > accessible for us to exploit, not so much #3, short of implementing RDI
> > (Really Dumb Indoor) which would seem to work against #1 and 2.
> > > Mark B.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Received on Thu Oct 14 2010 - 10:53:57 CEST