I Loved " "EZB" (indoor's oxymoron!) "
LeRoy Cordes
Chicago, Illinois
AMA 16974
In God We Trust
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:43:22 -0000 "Thomas" <parkreation_at_msn.com> writes:
> Yes, if A-6 is meant to introduce indoor to new people, then 1.8
> grams is better than 1.2 grams. Why, you may ask? Novice indoor
> fliers simply do not have the physical capability nor the precise
> scales to split the grams that small. You would only accomplish
> dividing the competition amongst a shrinking collection of indoor
> enthusiasts. If any new blood comes to the sport, why would we
> demorialize them with an airplane that has a 9 out of 10 range of
> difficulty.
>
> "Ahhh, thank-you indoor community, but I think I will just move onto
> another challenge that's more FUN", is what most novices will think.
>
>
> Indoor Freeflight is on the verge of extinction yet the
> conservative, seasoned flier wants yet another form of "EZB"
> (indoor's oxymoron!)with anti-novice difficulty. We should grasp
> what would drive the market, that is, the sport of indoor freeflight
> to go UP ....not OUT.
>
> Stepping down from the bully pulpit,
> Tom Sanders
>
> --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, "Don DeLoach"
> <ddeloach_at_...> wrote:
> >
> > Now here's a guy we should all listen to.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom, what would say a reasonable weight limit would be for Novice
> A-6? 1.8
> > grams?
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, re: paper covering, the main argument in favor of is it is
> perceived by
> > the average modeler to be easier to with/use etc. Would you agree
> with that
> > assertion? Or does the paper covering perception no longer exists
> in the
> > mind? I'm really curious about this.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas
> > Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:01 AM
> > To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: Getting people started in
> indoor FF
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Marty and all,
> >
> > Been a long time and am glad you have added your thoughts. For
> those who
> > don't know, Marty was a long time coach in Science Olympiad. He
> and I spent
> > many years officiating at NATS. Our witnessing thousands of
> novices flying
> > "indoors" gives us a unique perspective. Having two classes of
> "novice" and
> > "expert" should be given strong consideration.
> >
> > AS for plastic film I vote- yes. It am a convert. (Thanks Ray
> Harlan) It is
> > much easier to trim an airplane when the flying surface remains
> stable while
> > the atmospheric conditions change. This gets a novice that much
> closer to
> > success. We do need to get info and video up on how to apply-
> YouTube at its
> > finest...
> >
> > For 50% Stab- I say yes, again. We spent two years recently with
> very small
> > stabs in Wright Stuff and stability was an issue directly
> attributed to the
> > tiny stab surface area. So lesson learned, let's keep the
> variables for
> > trimming manageable.
> >
> > Finally, after one of the longest event runs in SO history, Wright
> Stuff
> > goes into hibernation for two years. Grinding out rules for A-6
> > will help nurture some of these novice student fliers who have
> gotten hooked
> > by the indoor bug.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Sanders
> > National Supervisor
> > --- In Indoor_Construction
> <mailto:Indoor_Construction%40yahoogroups.com>
> > _at_yahoogroups.com, Marty Alderman <mda35@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've seen pages of discussion about the details of the A-6
> rules,
> > > admittedly not an easy thing on which to get consensus. If
> people agree
> > > that A-6 is a class which is supposed to get beginners hooked on
> indoor
> > > FF competition, then why has there been only one comment about
> my post
> > > on having ONE two-division class where only beginners are
> allowed to
> > > compete for the trophy in the beginners division? It means an
> extra set
> > > of trophies, but c'mon guys! Focus! How can we bring newbies
> into
> > > trying indoor FF competition AND get them hooked????? I
> suggested we
> > > put out some candy (trophies!)
> > >
> > > I find the rules discussion interesting, but it has become a
> separate
> > > issue from getting and keeping newbies, and our hobby NEEDS to
> get and
> > > keep newbies if it is to survive. There has been some discussion
> of how
> > > to bring newbies into the hobby in the past, but IMHO we need a
> more
> > > robust 'Survival of the Hobby' thread separate from the A-6
> rules
> > > thread. Or is this hobby actually another 'creative anachronism'
> like
> > > using Morse code on Ham Radio?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Marty
> > >
> > > P.S. - I like Morse code, too.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marty Alderman
> > > Physics Teacher!
> > > Cornell University Visiting Faculty
> > > 2007-9 Cornell PhysTEC TIR (Teacher In Residence)
> > >
> > > 128 Clark Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
> > > 607.255.0165
> > > mda35_at_
> > >
> > > At some point in their lives, most people ask themselves:
> > > "Does my life have meaning?"
> > > Most teachers answer it emphatically:
> > > "Absolutely! YES!"
> > >
> >
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LeRoy Cordes
Chicago, Illinois
AMA 16974
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