Re: Re: IHLG Flappers

From: Bill Gowen <b.gowen_at_earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:19:49 -0500

Oh so Don is using the old serrated LE trick huh?

If this flatlander decides to fly HLG at your esteemed site it will probably be my old Poker. The DLG is a total bust at this point in time. No climb, no transition, no glide.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: rreyno2001
  To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:11 PM
  Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: IHLG Flappers


  --- In Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com, "Don DeLoach "
  <ddeloach_at_...> wrote:
>
> Randy,
> The Colorado Springs Auditorium is just under 37' at its peak, 36'
  9" if I
> recall. The official measurement (15M circle method) is closer to
  31'.
>
> I took these measurements myself in 2005.
>
> The best single glider flight we've ever seen in there was
  Romash's 40.0.
> Assuming the model settled and started gliding at 36', his sink
  rate was .9
> ft./sec.
>
> Thermals
> Don

  I stand corrected. Of course I think any flatlander who comes up
  here to fly at out altitude would find existing competition at a
  pretty high level. Further I should mention that Don himself
  regularly beats the crowd with a glider he built in high school
  compleat with a serrated leading edge from many collisions with
  obstructions. Shame, shame!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
  rreyno2001
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:53 PM
> To: Indoor_Construction_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Indoor_Construction] Re: IHLG Flappers
>
> It seems that there are a lot of similar experiences but perhaps
> what is needed is some common data on the flaps themselves. As a
> guitar maker deflection testing is commonly done in my craft to
  find
> the lightest/strongest wood and wouldn't something similar make
> sense here? perhaps not the strongest per weight but most flexible
> per weight??
>
> Chris mentioned to me that he tests the flap by measuring on a
  gram
> scale how many grams it takes to deflect the flap to zero
  degrees.
> He feels that number should be one half of the glider weight.
> Hopefully I have that right.
>
> It would also seem that actual measuements of the flaps are only
> somewhat useful given the above since the flexural strength of
  each
> individual flap wood can differ.
>
> Personally I prefer to develop a sense of this rather than measure
> preferring things to be intuitive but in this case I don't really
> have enough experience to do that.
>
> Talking of times....I am envious of the times I see being
  mentioned
> under Cat I sites where our own Cat II 37-39' site record stands
  at
> less than 40 seconds. This 6500' altitude has quite an effect I
> guess.
>
> Randy
>
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